SHELBY'S Marine Service (HO/HOn3) : KKarns

This thread was started in January, 2022

KKarns
January 2022 edited January 2022 in HO Scale Builds
Introduction and Historical Account

In keeping with my decision to proceed with building each and every HO/HOn3 kit produced by SierraWest Scale Models in chronological order, beginning with Brett’s first kit release BlueSky Company (circa 1995), I now embark on the classic kit; Shelby’s Marine Service (herein referred to simply as “Shelby’s”). Shelby’s was released May 1, 1998 and was met with much anticipation and excitement within the modeling community. Brett posted an ad in the Nov/Dec 1997 issue of Narrow Gauge and Short Line Gazette featuring his original Shelby’s concept model giving his dedicated customers a sneak peak at what was in store (see figure 1. below).

(Figure 1. Ad listed in the Nov/Dec 1997 issue of the GAZETTE.)

Shelby’s represents SierraWest Scale Models first true waterfront kit including wharfs, docks, pilings, boats, and all that is marine. Valley Model Trains carried an ad in the January 1998 issue of Railroad Model Craftsman in which they depicted Shelby’s being available TBA (to be announced) with their stock number 103, which was also Brett’s kit number, along with a few other SWSM kits in their inventory (see figure 2. below)

(Figure 2. Shelby’s ad in Railroad Model Craftsman January 1998. Note the image is of Brett’s “concept” model. Poor resolution is due to the actual picture in the magazine being about 1.5 inches square!)

Shelby’s official release and availability was announced in two beautifully illustrated ads in both the Mar/Apr 1998 issue of the Gazette and the May 1998 issue of Railroad Model Craftsman (see figures 3 and 4 below).

(Figure 3. Mar/Apr 1998 issue of the Narrow Gauge and Short Line Gazette. First image of the final pilot model)

(Figure 4. May, 1998 issue of Railroad Model Craftsman. Just beautiful!)

Shelby’s was a Limited Run kit of which only 350 were produced and was kit #103. As with all of SWSM kits, it quickly sold out and has been a coveted piece of nostalgic modeling ever since. I was thrilled to find a specimen on the secondary market and paid…we’ll just say way more than sticker price to get my hands on it! Speaking of sticker price, Valley Model Trains ran a follow-up listing for the released kit at a 1998 list price of $230 and was on sale for $207. A bargain even at that time! (See figure 5 below).

(Figure 5. Ad in May, 1998 Railroad Model Craftsman for Shelby’s along with a few other featured SWSM kits)

I have discussed my upcoming Shelby’s project with Brett and he gave me some interesting perspectives on his concepts and development of this kit. I’m looking forward to the upcoming build, and have some interesting and exciting ideas in store for this great work that is Shelby’s Marine Service…Here we go!

Comments

MuddyCreekRR
January 2022
I’m rolling around the idea in my head of doing an O scale marine railway ramp for my waterfront area (long in the future) so I will be watching for ideas…

Pappy
January 2022 edited January 2022
Ken, thanks for sharing this info!
Would love to have this kit Shelby’s Marine.

KKarns
January 2022
You bet guys and thanks for the notes here.

ALCO
January 2022
(Rubbing hands together)

KKarns
January 2022 edited January 2022
This begins the actual build of Shelby’s Marine Service (herein referred to as simply “Shelby’s”).

As with all my SierraWest Scale Models builds, I begin by much contemplation, research, and general mental study of the proposed project. This consists of historical research as depicted above, discussions with Brett on his concepts and development, review of all available previous build documentation, and of course a thorough review of the Construction Manual.

As per the manual, I started with the main structure. In looking at how I was going to tackle the signature structure of this kit, I settled on a well worn and heavily peeled white paint finish. I completed the lower front wall as a “test wall” to see if my results I achieved were consistent with the goals of the build.

Modeling peeling/weathered paint can be accomplished through a number of techniques, and modelers have their “go to” methods. I decided for my build here I was going for a very heavily peeled and “checked” paint finish. Paint can fade, peel, and check. Check refers, by my definition, as paint that has a multitude of cracks forming irregular geometric patterns and then flakes off to varying degrees. I was also going to do what I refer to as a controlled paint “peel”. By this I mean, rather than paint peel each board separately and then construct the wall to get a random peel effect, I base stained all the boards, detailed the weathering of the wood and built the wall prior to the paint “peel”. This way I can control the amount of peel exactly where I want it. This would of course be exactly how paint would be applied and then weathered in real life. Wall built…then painted. I also plan to incorporate more than just one type of paint “peel” which also would be realistically encountered. Some of the paint would fade, some flake, some check (usually with heavy coats), etc..

The front lower wall was done first. This wall will have the second story overhang thus protecting the upper reaches of the wall so less paint peel towards the sheltered top few boards as seen in Figure 1. below. The checked paint can clearly be seen in the images and the extent of the paint that has been weathered. The second wall was then constructed and the paint peel was more uniform as this wall is fully exposed as seen in figure 2. below.

(Figure 1. Front lower level wall)

(Figure 2. Side wall lower level)

The big issue with getting an accurate checked paint peel is keeping the checked paint in scale. This was accomplished with crackle paint applied sparingly and any out of scale areas removed. I am covering the inside of all the lower level walls with old “tar paper” for interest and to hide light shining distractingly through cracks and separation in the siding when viewed from the outside (see figure 3. below).

(Figure 3. Interior walls of lower level covered with old tar paper)

The remaining walls will be constructed and detailed…more later…Ken

Pappy
January 2022 edited January 2022
Ken, can’t wait to see you progress on this build.
I sure it will be fantastic as usual.
bty, love the chipped wood planks :smile:

randyp
January 2022
Looking forward to following your build. I don’t have a place for a water side scene on my layout. However I will look forward to reading about modeling techniques. Did you use the mineral spirits and tape on the lower front wall? Thanks

KKarns
January 2022
Thanks Chris.

Randy, the paint peel was entirely done with crackle paint, no mineral sprits or tape.

brownbr
January 2022
Nice effect with the crackle paint. Checked mine recently and it has dried out. Guess that’s an opportunity to go shopping.

Pappy
January 2022
Ken, will check out the crackle paint effect for sure. Any specific brand for this?

SonofVietnamSeabee
January 2022
I own one of those 350 kits as well. Paid a small fortune to acquire it! Sitting safe and sound in my house.

I am waiting to build mine until I have plenty more time and skills (I need both!!)

So I will enjoy watching this build thread from one of the greats.

KKarns
January 2022
So far so good Bryan.

I am using Ranger Pappy but sure other brands would work as well.

Thanks much Brian and you get what you pay for with SierraWest that’s for sure!

geoawelch
January 2022
Love watching you model age and grunge, Ken. Looks to be a fun and challenging build for you.

I remember when it came out in the Gazette way back when.

Best of luck as you move forward on the project and educate us along the way.

George

admin
January 2022 edited January 2022
What a fantastic intro, trip down memory lane for sure. Cannot wait to see where you take Shelby’s. Your added extras and fantastic modeling will certainly make for one awesome build and finished diorama. Thank you for taking the time to bring us along and post this on the forum!

admin
January 2022
As much as I love the exterior of the walls so far, I gotta say the inside is just unreal. The texture of the paper as well as the exterior board reveal is wonderful. Give us the skinny on how you achieved the board reveal/texture! What material is the “tarpaper”?

KKarns
January 2022
Glad to hear you’ll be following along George.

This has been a much anticipated build for me Brett, as Shelby’s combines everything a fine scale modeler could ask for. I appreciate all your input and encouragement and will give this project the attention it deserves.
Oh and nobody called me out yet…the blurred sign was on purpose and will have to wait quite a few kits down the road in my quest to build all of them to find out what it actually says!

vietnamseabee
January 2022
I’ll maybe give the crackle finish another test…a year or so ago I gave it a try and the results were good but the “crackle “ pattern seemed too large for HO…at the time it seemed probably okay for O scale. The product I used was from Lowes and intended for furniture refinishing to get Ann old antique effect
Terry

KKarns
January 2022
I’d look for it more on the artist supply line. Something from Michaels or Hobby Lobby. Your exactly right Terry, the checked paint has to be in scale to work particularly in 1:87. I had to experiment around to get the amount of paint that would produce the right scale and if you work it too much it doesn’t check properly. Here is a close up and you can see that the effect is well in scale particularly with standard viewing with out the close up…

KKarns
January 2022
Really close…

TomMich
January 2022
Outstanding as usual! The paint effect really turned out GREAT! Looking forward to what you do with this kit.

KKarns
January 2022
Appreciate that Tom.

brownbr
January 2022
When I did crackle paint experiments some time ago I found that the Ranger gave the smallest cracks. Unfortunately this product was discontinued when I last checked which on my ONeills build. I went with Deco art brand and got good results. The product was stark whit out of the container so I found I needed to weather it to get a dirty color. Make sure it is plenty dry and don’t use alcohol. 1 pass is all you will get with water. Enamels worked best but once again, 1 or 2 passes before you start Messi g up the crackles.

Pappy
January 2022
My question is how do you get the peeling effect with this stuff if you don’t use tape to peel. Sorry, not understanding how this crackle stuff works and how to apply and see both crackle and peeling at the same time.
Thanks for any info.

KKarns
January 2022
The “peel” is created by scrapping away the paint with a #11 blade. I like it as it is completely controllable. Leave it where you want it, scrape it away where you don’t.

Jim M
January 2022
Ken, that peeling paint looks great. Looking forward to seeing what you create with this kit.

PaulS
January 2022
Ken, just a beautiful aged paint effect achieved, extremely realistic. AND in HO less …
Looking forward to following along with your next masterpiece and learning along the way.
Thanks,
–Paul

geoawelch
January 2022
That closeup is remarkable and being HO makes it even more so.

I forgot to mention in the previous post that I enjoy the background you give on the kits.

George

Joel
January 2022
Ken, been looking forward to this one for a long while. One of my all time favourite kits and you are off to a fantastic start. Love the crackle paint effect. I guess it works in the hands of a master.

Jerry
January 2022
Ken looking forward to this build. Looking wonderful as usual!

I like the history of the kit in the beginning, I bet Brett didn’t even know those facts!!

Jerry

admin
January 2022
The crackle paint effect is superb and totally to scale. Love it!

SteveCuster
January 2022
Great start so far Ken! The paint looks excellent!

KKarns
January 2022
Thanks much JimM. Should prove interesting to see where it goes.

Hi Paul, appreciate that and nice hearing from you.

Thanks George and I really enjoy the back story on Brett’s kits, particularly the older releases such as Shelby’s.

Nice hearing from you Joel. Great to hear that Shelby’s is one of your all time favorite SWSM kit. I’m really looking forward to this build as it has all the elements a modeler could ask for. Appreciate the support on the paint. This finish gives a nice variation and I plan to incorporate some other “peel” effects in addition to this one.

Hi Jerry, and thanks. I’m happy with the positive responses to the historical account for the kit. I really got into this aspect with Eureka Springs, but have always researched, to some extent, the history of all the SWSM kits I have completed (this is number eleven I believe).

Thanks so much Brett. As I mentioned to Joel, I plan to level a couple of paint application effects here, so will see how that goes! Almost have the lower level walls done!..

Hi Steve, great hearing from you. Hope all is well. Thanks much for taking the time to “check in” and hopefully we can hook up again at a show down the road again.

MuddyCreekRR
January 2022
Did you use a product to cause the crackle? I thought that’s what I read…

KKarns
January 2022
Correct. Its a special paint that produces the cracks or checking when it dries.

Robert.G
January 2022
Great introduction and history. The first walls look very nice. Perfect crackle.. Perhaps you could post a link where to get that paint. ( if that,s ok with the SW management… :smile: ) Another fine build to follow. To bad there is no O scale version of it.. Like so many SW HO scale kits…

Karl.A
January 2022 edited January 2022
Robert.G said:
… Too bad there is no O scale version of it.. …

It’s quite big when done in O scale Robert… :wink:
But with Brett’s structure design, it looks so good…

KKarns
January 2022 edited January 2022
Hey Thanks much Robert and nice hearing from you. I’m pleased with the response to the history and back story of the kits I have been posting of late. As I mentioned, I enjoy the research on the kits and lets me go into the build with a good sense of how it was originally conceived and the “flavor” of the project.

The crackle paint took a bit of messing around with to get right and just adds another peel effect to the other excellent methods out there. I believe I mentioned I use the Ranger product but it is now difficult to find. I imagine other artists brands would work just as well.

Thanks again for your thoughts here.

kebmo
January 2022
i just ordered some ranger crackle paint on amazon.

KKarns
January 2022 edited January 2022
Make sure it’s white as there is a bunch of the “clear rock candy” which you don’t want. Haven’t tried coloring the clear but doubt it would work as well.

kebmo
January 2022
crap. i ordered the ‘clear rock candy’.

kebmo
January 2022
kebmo said:
crap. i ordered the ‘clear rock candy’.

i just canceled the order.

KKarns
January 2022
Oops , glad I mentioned that. The white crackle from Ranger is discontinued in its original label but I think any crackle paint from an artists supply would work just as well. Haven’t looked as I have a couple jars of the original I purchased a few years ago.

kebmo
January 2022
i’m glad you did too, or i would’ve had a $9 jar of useless crap…

Pappy
January 2022
Just thought I would help out here.
I found on Amazon Ranger Texture Paste Opaque Crackle.
It does not indicate Clear rock Candy.
Not sure is this is the correct stuff.
3.9oz bottle for $10 bucks.

KKarns
January 2022
Worth a try…I saw that stuff and was curious if it would give the same results. You’re up Pappy…give it a go!

Pappy
January 2022 edited January 2022
Going to purchase and see what happens…thanks Ken

KKarns
January 2022
You bet Pappy, let us know how it goes…

KKarns
January 2022
The crackle is the product.

Steps:

  1. Detail the wood as desired.
  2. Stain/Color your base wood. This will be the color of the wood once the crackle paint is removed.
  3. Apply the white crackle paint and let completely dry.
  4. Scrape off crackle paint as desired.

Hope that helps.

brownbr
January 2022
I might add that I tried chalk as the base color but the crackle takes most of the color off. Had to use different method to color wood.

Pappy
January 2022 edited January 2022
Ken, can’t wait to see your progress on this project.

KKarns
January 2022
Pappy, don’t add paint and then the crackle. The crackle is the paint. You’ll end up with two layers of paint. When I said stain/color your wood I meant the base color of the raw wood. Should have just said stain I guess.

Pappy
January 2022 edited January 2022
So the crackle can be colored with paint. I understand now..thanks Ken
I feel brain dead at times..lol :smile:

KKarns
January 2022
No…the crackle paint you need to get is WHITE. There is crackle clear but that’s not what you want. I have not tried coloring the clear but suspect it will change the properties of the crackle paint and won’t give the desired effect. Would be interesting to experiment with that though.

kebmo
January 2022
i bought a crackle product years ago, folk art crackle medium. the instructions say to paint it on the wood, and when dry paint the top coat. it’s supposed to crackle the top coat. it doesn’t work for n scale, but i’ve not tried it yet in o scale.

KKarns
January 2022
Pappy, never have been an O scale modeler so not sure where that came from? I have posted 11 builds here and all are HO/HOn3.

Pappy
January 2022 edited January 2022
Sorry Ken, I may have mixed up other folks builds.
Your builds are fantastic and can’t wait to see more on this Sheleb’s build

KKarns
January 2022
No worries just wanted to make sure I wasn’t giving anyone the idea I was modeling in that scale (moving to the dark side! lol)

kebmo
January 2022
when i modeled in n scale h.o. stood for horribly oversized.
of course n was normal.

KKarns
January 2022 edited January 2022
Finished the walls for the bottom section of Shelby’s main structure. Despite just 4 half walls here,
a lot of work went into them thus far. The interiors will be more detailed once the upper half walls are done and attached. The bottom half is stud framing (obviously), while the upper half will be over templates. The interior of the upper half will be mostly hidden.

Lower level walls. Bare wood areas are covered by both the tool shop framing and the rear shed. The “people door” on the long wall with the large bare wood area is the access from the interior of the tool shed to the main facility.

Lower level interior walls. I have covered the interior of a few walls in my previous builds but decided to cover all the interior with tar paper on this build. I do this for a couple reasons; firstly, it gives the walls a more finished appearance and at the same time a dirty, grungy look. Secondly, the spaces between boards, when viewed from the outside when lit on the interior, gives distracting light seep. The tar paper covers much of this. And finally, the Interior details along the walls really show up and are highlighted well against the solid tar paper.

More later…

randyp
January 2022
Ken, it looks great both inside an d out.

Robert.G
January 2022
Not even finished and already worn and grungy… :blush: Nice work Ken !!

KKarns
January 2022
Thanks Randy.

Appreciate that Robert.

admin
January 2022
Wonderful update. I keep going back to how realistic the tarpaper looks inside the walls. Agree with your reasoning as well for utilizing the tp.

KKarns
January 2022
Thanks so much Admin. Since the first time I started covering my interior walls back with BlueSky, I have really liked the effect and plan to use it on future builds. I plan to “light” Shelby’s and that will highlight the interior walls nicely. Love your design here Brett, gives me great opportunity to work with the wood that I enjoy so much. On to the upper level!

TomMich
January 2022
Fantastic peeling paint effect on exterior wood. The interior walls are great also!

KKarns
January 2022
Hey Tom, appreciate that my friend!..coming along.

Pappy
January 2022
Ken, your work is way above fantastic!

KKarns
January 2022
Thanks much Pappy…lots of siding work on this project, slow and steady as she goes!

KKarns
January 2022
Thanks Pappy, slow is my middle name! But all that does is extend the enjoyment of working with SWSM kits, which is always a good thing. I mentioned to Brett that we should probably start an additional thread under techniques once a subject begins to take on a more detailed conversation to keep build threads a bit cleaner and easier to follow…and of course that was on me, and I should have started one for the crackle paint conversation so sorry about that. Maybe when you get your results you can start one under that heading and I’ll jump in and give my 2 cents worth! lol…

geoawelch
January 2022
When I see your modeling, Ken, it amazes me the layers of believable detail you apply.

George

KKarns
January 2022
Hey George, appreciate that and you hit the nail on the head my friend…layering is all so important. Thanks again.

Joel
January 2022
Just a fantastic start Ken. The amount of detail and time you put into every wall it really shows. Fantastic effect.

KKarns
January 2022
Appreciate that Joel, and of course always enjoy hearing from you! Working on the upper sections now and will have those ready by this weekend I hope.

Jerry
January 2022
Ken looks great! Like the TP effect inside. What did you use for the TP and did you fit that in between the fire stops or before??

Jerry

KKarns
January 2022
Thanks much Jerry. I constructed the wall framing and finished the exterior wall before beginning the interior. I cut tissue paper to fit the spaces between the studs and fire stops after the wall was done. These strips were then glued in place and weathered with pigments/chalk.

Jerry
January 2022
Thanks Ken. That would work on most models that don’t have battens to keep the cold out!

Jerry

KKarns
January 2022 edited January 2022
Update on my Shelby’s project:

Have been working on the walls for the main structure. Absolutely love the amount of “wall work” that is entailed in the main building. Such a nice design. The bottom wall sections are all built over strip wood framing, which I illustrated earlier. The second floor walls are strip wood siding over cardboard templates. The upper and lower walls are built separately and then glued together, save for the front which the upper level is beautifully cantilevered over the lower wall section. To top it off, when the main building walls are put together, there is a Tool Shop addition, rear shed, stairway, and roof yet to be added! Modelers dream.

As you know, I am doing the “paint peel” with crackle paint. I have done this method, to a limited extent, in a few of my other builds but nothing of this magnitude. I was a bit apprehensive based on the shear amount of wall “square footage”! I decided the way to do it was to remove a good bit of the paint, as experimental pieces with a large amount of the paint left on did not look good at all! (illustrated in the following pics…Lol) This of course fit well with my style of Grunge and afforded lots of detailing opportunities.

Below is a picture of the upper wall sections with the coat of crackle paint applied

Upper walls with the crackle paint applied…YUCK! Easy to imagine the look with only a small amount of paint removed.

Below are the walls with the upper and lower sections glued together and the paint removed to my taste.

If I were to do it again, I would detail the walls without applying the paint until the upper and lower walls were married together, then apply the paint. I’m not totally happy with the transition of the upper and lower walls. The most obvious is the right side of the top picture which is the left wall. Fortunately this area will not show as the stairway construction will hide that seam. This would have been a “no issue” had I painted them as one unit. Not a big deal once things are done and detailed…just a good “note to self” for the future. Note: Purists may notice some subtile changes in the walls above…more on that later.

I’m now working on the wonderful windows included in the kit. Despite this kit being almost 25 years old, the window design is still just beautiful. The filigree of the framing and in particular the mullions is wonderful.

KKarns
January 2022
Front upper wall with a couple of windows staged to show the wonderful detail of these laser cut pieces. Inner sash is separate and can be positioned as desired. I’m not done with these windows yet…experimenting with getting better long length wood grain. More on that later.

admin
January 2022
Amazing the transformation that occurs once you strip the unwanted paint away. The walls are perfect and really capture that waterfront feeling.

KKarns
January 2022
Lots of scraping paint, but it’s a blast and actually a lot of fun to do. Thanks Brett, look forward to putting the walls together and getting at that Tool Shop addition!

KKarns
January 2022 edited January 2022
I experimented with imparting a wood grain into the laser cut window frames. The material has a grain that goes perpendicular to the long measure of the frame. I went over the frame with my #11 blade to give it some long grain and dry brushed with white. It actually gave a slight crackle appearance as the long grain worked well with the short grain to give the desired effect.

Original window…note the short width grain.

Same window after detailing with some long width grain and dry brushing after. Perfect example of how versatile and detail ready these windows are!

Reminder of the size of these guys in 1:87…least we forget! Lol.

ALCO
January 2022
Breaking new ground here and doing a great job! Question: If you take off too many “crackles”, can you put some back? LOL

Jerry
January 2022
Kind of like the cereal snap,crackle & pop!! Once there gone there gone!!

Just had to say that!!

Jerry

Jerry
January 2022
Ken the window looks great as usual a beautiful job.

Jerry

KKarns
January 2022
Thanks AL, I didn’t try that! I did try adding some paint with a brush to see how that would look as if it were re-painted…didn’t look very good.

Yup, can’t easily go back! Thanks Jerry.

TomMich
January 2022
Adding the grain really enhances the detail of the windows. Nice work! I’ve tried something like that on such windows but mine didn’t turn out as nice.

KKarns
January 2022
Thanks Tom, it does take some close quarters work!

brownbr
January 2022
Excellent.

EmeryJ
January 2022
Great detail on such small items.

KKarns
January 2022
Will hardly be seen…

MuddyCreekRR
January 2022
Your work always amazes me…then I remember that you model in HO and my mind gets blown…I keep trying to get into the shop but I get distracted or busy or the PTS gets to me and nothing gets done…tonight I am making myself get down there to get re-organized so I can get back to work…the O Foundry is just sitting there waiting…

KKarns
January 2022
Thanks much Bryan!

Appreciate that Art and nice hearing from you. Carving out some bench time can be a juggling act that’s for sure. I think your idea of re-organizing works as a good motivator. A clean bench invites progress!

admin
January 2022
Love the added depth and detail on that window.

KKarns
January 2022
Thanks much Brett. These windows, as in every SierraWest kit I have built up, are so enjoyable to work with. I reiterate here the importance of windows being in scale and nothing matches these laser cut wood windows for accuracy, look, scale and versatility.

KKarns
February 2022 edited February 2022
Further work on the windows for the main structure of Shelby’s. This is the right wall lower level. There are only two windows on the lower level, and this one faces the overhead crane work area. Thusly, I decided to add protective bars to the lower half to add some interest and variety to the many wonderfully designed windows in this kit. A few signs on the inside round out the details.

KKarns
February 2022 edited February 2022

The close up test…

Mountaingoat
February 2022
Perfecto!..Rick

brownbr
February 2022
Must be on the wrong side of the tracks if they need bars on the windows.

KKarns
February 2022
Lol…right you are Bryan…bars wouldn’t do much good with regards to theft as the large opening on that side of the building is completely open! Maybe to protect the window from damage..I don’t know…just like the look I guess.

KKarns
February 2022
Hey thanks Rick!

Jerry
February 2022 edited February 2022
Great work on the siding.

Jerry

KKarns
February 2022
Appreciate that Jerry…still working on siding and have the tool shop to complete.

TomMich
February 2022
Ken, your creativity when it comes to adding interesting details to the already wonderful kits is remarkable. I can’t wait to see what you are up to next. That close up really shows the great detail of the paint chipping on the walls. Like the addition of the signs to the windows.

KKarns
February 2022
Hey Thanks so much Tom! Easy to get carried away as these kits afford so many nice detailing opportunities. Working on the second story gib crane and details…all day project! Lol.

KKarns
February 2022
Took a break from working on the tool shop siding. Opted to build the front upper level hoist boom. I wanted it to look as if the main beam traveled inside the structure for solid support. I cut a opening in the siding a bit larger than the dimension of the beam and glued the beam in place. Then fashioned styrene strips for the angles supports and a card stock piece for the bolted on support plate. Small detail that took most of the morning and a few cups of coffee to complete…of course that’s at my speed. When the wall is glued in its final resting spot, I’ll attach the hoist and pulley arrangement that I came up with. More later and back to the siding…

vietnamseabee
February 2022
Always an interesting twist to your builds, Ken….you come up with so many small ideas that add to the whole!!
Terry

Jim M
February 2022
Fantastic. I can’t even imagine modeling in HO scale and then I see this. Very impressive.

KKarns
February 2022
Thanks so much Terry. Brett had designed an impressive resin hoist casting for this location. I had an idea for the actual rope hoist mechanism that I think looks very nautical that required a slightly different arrangement to the hoist support so I ended up making this one.

Hey Jim, appreciate that and nice hearing from you.

kebmo
February 2022
it aced the close up test.

KKarns
February 2022
Thanks Kev, nice compliment as that’s often hard to do in 1:87! Lol.

brownbr
February 2022
The wall is fantastic and the hoist gives that extra little bit.

KKarns
February 2022
Thanks Bryan, the hoist pulley system turned out really well…can’t wait to get it hung up there!

KKarns
February 2022
Quick update on Shelby’s…I have completed all the walls, including doors and windows, of the main structure. I will now turn my attention to the interior wall detailing that I want to get done while I’m able to lie them flat and before glueing them together.

Here’s a fun picture of the pile of unassembled walls…

EmeryJ
February 2022
Those are some nice looking walls sir.

KKarns
February 2022 edited February 2022
Thanks much Emery. Can’t wait to get things together to where I’m detailing and arranging all those 3D parts I have planned for this diorama. Your efforts are so much appreciated my friend! So far I think the large scale crackle paint peel is working out. I’ll have a better feel for it once the building is all together. I really like how controllable the peel is as illustrated by the large open front lower wall at the middle bottom of the picture. More peel lower down and less where the upper level overhangs this wall seen above it. The skinny two walls with the pointed angles…the one on the left is under the porch/stairs, thus less peel versus the one on the right that is exposed to the weather at the rear of the structure.

brownbr
February 2022
I think the paint worked also. The only time it will ever look out of scale is in a close up.

KKarns
February 2022
I’m very pleased with the scale as that was a big concern going into it.

sdrees
February 2022
the sea air has done its number on the walls Ken.

Jim M
February 2022
That’s a lot of beautiful work. You really get a feel of what it will look like when finished with all the walls together like that. Very nice.

KKarns
February 2022
For sure Stephen, grungy is as grungy does…

Hey Thanks Jim. Right, I though the picture of the walls all thrown together did give a glimpse of how it will look. Have a good bit yet to do prior to putting them all together.

KKarns
February 2022
Added the bars to the only other lower level window on the main structure. Love these windows of Bretts…can’t stop fooling around with them. Decided to add interior screen for protection…mainly just to add visual interest…lots to see for just basic double hung windows!

I am now getting set-up to detail the walls for the Bait & Tackle Shop…more later.

Side wall of the Tool Shop as seen from the rear of Shelby’s

Updated the right side window with the interior screen to match the other lower level window.

TomMich
February 2022
Walls turned out very nice!

admin
February 2022
All the extra detail and depth added to the wall with the paint/weathering and the window bars/screen are working so well together. I am impressed with how small you got the individual and distinct crackle “pieces”. Not overdone, just right and completely to scale.

KKarns
February 2022
Hey Thanks much Tom…so far so good.

Appreciate that Brett. Those windows are just timeless!..for a kit almost 25 years old the windows are still the best prototypical and detailable (made up a new word just for these windows!) windows out there.

Great that you mentioned about the crackle paint “pieces”, that’s the bottle of wax when it comes for making this method work in 1:87 scale. If I wasn’t able to get the “pieces” to where they are, I wasn’t going to do it at all. There were a few areas that the size of the pieces were too big but I just scraped them off.

KKarns
February 2022
I am moving on to the Bait & Tackle Shop. The walls are scribed siding and will be finished in a weathered red color with white trim. It becomes worth repeating the importance of preparing the walls for the desired effect well before applying the final color. Here I will outline how I go about detailing scribed siding:

First I study the manual and templates and come up with an overall plan for the structure. I map the areas I want to show any significant weathering in the form of missing/rotted siding.

I then grain the siding with my wire brush. This is followed by an application of nail holes at the stud framing that would be present. I always lay in the nail holes before staining the base wood and color cots. This allows the nail holes to pop and then get toned down with the paint and fill in many of the nail holes as it naturally would. This results in a vague visual indication of the nail holes.

Next step is to impart all the joints where two boards meet, missing pieces of siding, heavily weathered areas, etc…Once this is done I give the wall a coat of base stain. This is what will show through the weathered, chipped, and faded paint. Further applications of pigments completes the post color detailing to come later.

Once satisfied with the base wood staining and weathering its on to the color coat…

Wall section with basic pre-stain detailing as described above.

Wall section following base stain application. More walls to go.

KKarns
February 2022
Here a bit more advanced weathering technique that I like to use as it gives a great level of visual interest. It also serves to heighten the amount of deterioration and give the impression of depth to the wall. This is not for the fait of heart as you have to destroy part of your wall you just worked so hard to detail!

Wall section with missing siding revealing the stud framing, that’s really not there and the interior siding that’s also…not there, creating great depth and visual interest. In order for this to look right and to scale, it’s not as easy as just cutting a chunk out and framing it in. The edges of the exposed siding would be way too thick to look right. Therefore, the siding must be thinned down to the scale thickness of the actual siding and not the pice of scribed siding you started with.

Here I have removed enough wood down to the scale thickness of the siding. You can actually see the ghosting of the nail holes showing through.

Mountaingoat
February 2022
Great tutorial!..Rick

KKarns
February 2022
Thanks Rick.

brownbr
February 2022
Love that detail. It’s become your signature.

Did you consider adding actual clapboards to the scribed siding like Brett’s more recent kits call for.

KKarns
February 2022
Thanks buddy, I think if I had to do an unweathered structure without screwed up siding I’d have a panic attack!

That is a great technique for a very unique look. I have only done it on one build and that was O’Neills. Didn’t really think about it for this build…should have.

Joel
February 2022
Just catching up Ken. What a fantastic build. The walls are just fantastic. The detailed windows ditto. Just a marvel.

KKarns
February 2022
Great hearing from you Joel. Hope all is well up north. Thanks so much for the note and support.

sdrees
February 2022
nice little detail

Jerry
February 2022
Wonderful detailing! What else can one say!!

Jerry

KKarns
February 2022 edited February 2022
Appreciate that Steve. I love reviewing your build of Shelby’s, great inspiration and motivation…so well done. If anyone hasn’t seen Stephen’s Shelby’s diorama, you need to! Go to the Gallery on this site.

Thanks Jerry. I end up making a lot of work for myself! lol.

KKarns
February 2022
I happened on an improved method of weathering the scribed siding. Where the siding meets edges such as window frames, doorways, and the wall sides, the siding often splits and cracks. This is accentuated by the nail holes along the board ends. Previously I would use my #11 blade to split and wether the ends. I didn’t care for the result as the blade was so sharp the cracks didn’t show up and if I tilted the blade it cut the wood too much. Today I tried my pointed awl to scribe the cracks and it worked great.

Result of the pointed awl used to scribe cracks in the board edges.

Close up of same. Remember, each board in HO is 1/16 of an inch wide!

The pointed awl I use.

ALCO
February 2022
There are so many new tips and techniques just on this current page, it’s ridiculous!! You da man! Thanks for your many contributions!

KKarns
February 2022
You bet Al! Thanks for the support buddy. Sometimes I get rolling on a build and only give updates after I’m done working on a section. Thought I’d try and get some updates as I go along with some areas.

KKarns
February 2022
Here is the above illustrated wall with the base stain added:

Base detailing done on all the walls with a couple more added areas of damage/rot. probably more than would be typically seen but adds a good bit of interest. Remember, these areas can be toned down with exterior details and scenic work hiding them with small areas peeking through.

TomMich
February 2022
Ken, that is some fine detailing on the walls! The patience it must take to thin out the walls without cutting through them is phenomenal. The resulting exposed results is GREAT! I’ve tried putting exposed studs on a deteriorating scribed wall and the thickness of the scribed wood does make it difficult to do. Your method may be tedious but it really turned out very nice!

KKarns
February 2022
Thanks so much Tom. You’re correct, the key to having this method look right is the thinning of the scribed siding down to scale thickness of the actual siding boards. Tedious for sure!

kebmo
February 2022 edited February 2022
those walls look excellent. they remind me of a 100+ year old hotel on the lakes around here where al capone and his cohorts would hang out to keep their heads down for a while.
the mineola hotel on fox lake illinois. it has fallen on hard times. the bar downstairs has been the only portion of the building open to the public for decades. last time i had a beer there, the paint peel was over 100% of the building.
some raccoon-caused damage up near the eaves or on the roof would look really cool.

ho scale raccoons are readily available too, so you could work some of your magic on it.

KKarns
February 2022
Thanks Kevin, appreciate the link and I’ll check it out. The peel on the main structure I did is significant. Was a bit concerned on how it would look. Will get a better idea once the building is together. Of all the dioramas I’ve built, I’ve only had one animal and that was a cat! Lol.

KKarns
February 2022
All the walls for the Bait & Tackle Shop have been detailed, stained, and braced. Through some trial applications on some test pieces of scribed siding, I landed on a shade of red that I liked for the structure. The paint will be far less weathered than that of the main structure. This will add a nice splash of contrasting color to the main Shelby’s building. I put the final color on a trial piece of the actual wall in spot that would not show just to make on last run before committing!

KKarns
February 2022 edited February 2022
The more I look at this the more I think it’s too red. I’m going to look at a bit more on the darker maroonish side…hmmm

brownbr
February 2022
You tell him Kevin. We want to see a raccoon.

KKarns
February 2022
Hey I have enough trouble just putting one LP in my dioramas let alone start messin with wildlife! Lol…

KKarns
February 2022
The maroon paint didn’t look quite right either. I added an additional coat of AI over the color and got the less red look I wanted. All the walls are now colored and initial weathering…couple examples follow:

brownbr
February 2022
I think it works. If it’s still bugging you I might suggest a very thin brown filter/wash of acrylics/ink/enamel doesn’t matter. The brown will filter the red but be in the same tone.

MuddyCreekRR
February 2022
I really like the color…

sdrees
February 2022
That looks like grunge to me Ken. The color is good.

SteveCuster
February 2022
Those walls look great Ken.

ALCO
February 2022
No matter what color you use. Just end up at “grunge”! Looks great!

KKarns
February 2022
Appreciate the feed-back Art…always nice to pol the gang!

Affirmative on the “grunge” Stephen and your thoughts here, thanks. Have reviewed your Shelby’s build numerous times and a great source of inspiration.

Thanks much Steve.

I think it’s a character flaw Al! lol…appreciate the support.

Jerry
February 2022
I like the color to!!

Jerry

KKarns
February 2022
Thanks for your input Jerry, appreciate it.

kebmo
February 2022
i think the red looks really nice.

KKarns
February 2022
Hey thanks Kevin, makes me feel better that there is some general consensus that the color is in the ball park.

EmeryJ
February 2022
I too like the red. Not too bright, just right :smiley:

KKarns
February 2022
Glad to hear and appreciate the feed-back.

KKarns
February 2022 edited February 2022
To see how things were going, I completed one wall of the Bait & Tackle Shop. Hung a couple of metal/porcelain signs. Have a potential issue with 25 year old transfer lettering that I’m working out. Will report back on that once I do some experimenting.

sdrees
February 2022
That looks great Ken. I did not have a problem with the dry transfers.

MuddyCreekRR
February 2022
Like the way it just blends together…

kebmo
February 2022
love that wall!

brownbr
February 2022
Turned out nice

KKarns
February 2022
Thanks Stephen. Didn’t think you had any issues as your transfer signage on your build are perfectly done.

Good to hear Art, that’s the goal right down to picking out the right colors of signage.

Hey Kevin, thanks buddy!..

I have adopted this specific method with my modeling. Take the walls of the Bait & Tackle Shop for example. Rather than perform the same step in the process with every wall, I completed this wall from start to finish and made any adjustments as I went. So now I know what works, what doesn’t, and establishes the framework and methodology for all the remaining walls.

Thanks much Bryan.

ALCO
February 2022
I’m jealous of how straightly your signs are cut. The wall is very nicely done.

KKarns
February 2022
Thanks so much Al. Right you are…to make the simulated metal/ceramic signs look legit, they have to be perfectly straight and square. Not an easy task when cutting out from a sheet when they are only a centimeter or less on a side!

Jerry
February 2022
Great wall and the signs perfect!!

Jerry

KKarns
February 2022
Really appreciate that Jerry.

admin
February 2022 edited February 2022
Love the wall, 100% Dr. Grunge. Hard to remember that was a milled clapboard wall. The weathering and “exposed” corner really are wonderful.

KKarns
February 2022
Thanks Brett…it really does give the otherwise flat wall some appearance of depth and individually boarded siding…takes some time but worth the effort… if that kind of “grunge” is to your liking! Lol.

Karl.A
February 2022
Beautiful work as always.

KKarns
February 2022
Hey thanks much Karl, appreciate that!

randyp
February 2022
Ken I had gotten behind. i just got caught up on your build. I really like the red color on the last wall is spot on. Love it, Randy

KKarns
February 2022
Thanks Randy, the color seemed to work out once weathered and the other details added.

KKarns
February 2022
Continuing with my sorting out of the dry transfers that are almost 25 years old. Had some limited success with the black lettering seen here, but still struggling with the white letters. The lettering is not releasing properly due to their age. I am scratch building all the doors and built a screen door for this door but decided to have it propped open so as not to hide the door details seen here.

admin
February 2022
That looks great! Interesting that the white is more problematic. Appreciate you discussing this!

sdrees
February 2022
This looks great Ken. I don’t remember having a problem with the large white lettering but a few of the small letters were a problem.

brownbr
February 2022
Eye catching sign

TomMich
February 2022
Ken, your sign turned our GREAT! The walls are also very nice. I also had trouble with the lettering on the build I did a while back. I had so much trouble with the white I couldn’t use them. I have had problems with using older dry transfers. They must have an expiration date.

MuddyCreekRR
February 2022
I am always amazed with the work you do in HO scale…

KKarns
February 2022
Thanks Brett. As we discussed I’m experimenting with different methods in an attempt to improve the release of the old dry transfers. Thus far the black appears to release much more readily and with predictability which is the key! The white is just stubborn and does not want to cooperate. Will keep at it and appreciate your thoughts.

Hey Stephen, thanks and see my response to Brett.

Thanks Bryan, the Bait & Tackle shop was originally designed with ample signage and proved part of its allure and popularity. I’m likely going to have to improvise on some of it due to the aged dry transfers which is to be expected on a kit almost 25 years old!

Thanks much Tom, we’ll see how the rest of the signage goes. Interesting as Brett mentioned, how the black seems to hold up better than the white lettering.

Appreciate that Art. I actually have a screen door to install on front of the wood door in the last picture. Was going to have it closed but it covered up that nice looking wood door so I’m going to have it propped open.

sdrees
February 2022
that wasn’t the case for me

MuddyCreekRR
February 2022
a few scale holes in the screen would look kool…and I am sure you have the talent and capabilities to make up scale green flies…

kebmo
February 2022
beautiful work on that wall…

KKarns
February 2022
I think there are many factors that go into the sustainability of the dry transfers.

Right Art…lol, I have a few little details to add to the screen door. Should have that and more signage done this weekend…

Hey Kevin, appreciate that.

Jerry
February 2022
Transfer look’s great! To bad about the white hope you can get it worked out. If anyone can I’m sure it will be you!

I love the way you scratch built the door in HO no less.

Amazing work.

Jerry

KKarns
February 2022
Hey Jerry, I appreciate the support and thanks so much. Nifty that you noticed the scratch built door. In fact, all the doors on this build are/will be scratch built. Just finished the screen door and will post some updates soon.

Jerry
February 2022
Screen door! I suppose to keep the flies out!!

Jerry

KKarns
February 2022
Hey its a Bait shop so lots of smelly stuff in there! Actually the screen door is to add visual interest and to try out some new techniques…like making the long spring that many old screen doors had. Got that worked out and the door is hung. Almost done with all the walls for the Bait Shop. Posting soon.

KKarns
February 2022 edited February 2022
As mentioned above, the walls are essentially done for the Bait & Tackle Shop. Final details will occur once the structure is put together and planted on the diorama. Also as mentioned, the dry transfers for much of the signage did not allow for consistent application during the trials on scrap siding. This renders them unusable for this project in total. I was able to coax a few to transfer adequately and will point those out as I post the walls.

Disclaimer: If you’re not into suffering through a detailed review of multiple walls that appear somewhat similar, and don’t relish my opinions and modeling philosophy then fast forward as this segment will be a bit adnauseam for you!

I thought it appropriate to take pause on this project to give some brief thoughts of mine as I navigate this build. I approach every SWSM build with a similar goals and expectations, and that is to challenge myself, and to be a student of the project. I set out to always try new techniques and explore the boundaries and modeling opportunities the kit provides. Once experience is gained, the modeler has a definite feel for how the project will evolve and utilizing their own modeling style, the project begins to take shape.

Shelby’s first took shape conceptually through a myriad of sources including the kit contents, prior builds that were studied, discussions with fellow modelers, pictures, web searches, publications, and of course the comprehensive manual included with every SWSM kit. I was, and continue to be, so excited to be working on this project. So many new techniques and modeling opportunities, not the least of which is this, my first waterfront diorama! My main concern was to think outside the box and to be cognizant of the goal to impart a maritime “feel” to the final result…that, I’m still striving for!

What follows is an in depth look at the construction and initial detailing of Shelby’s Bait & Tackle Shop.

KKarns
February 2022 edited February 2022
The Bait & Tackle Shop, although a small structure compared to the main Shelby’s Marine Service building, makes up for in charm and unique detailing opportunities. The inability to utilize many of the dry transfer decals was a disappointment…but also an opportunity. I detailed each wall from start to finish, in succession, with thoughts of how each wall would interact with the next and so on. Lets face it, walls are much easier to work on and detail flat on the bench and manipulated by hand. I decided to detail the walls as much as possible prior to assembling the structure. One draw back, if one fails to plan ahead, is that the flow from one wall to the next will not be consistent and smooth. In addition, thoughts concerning details placed around and next to the structure can have a significant impact on the wall detail plan. This concept will be illustrated on the first wall shown here:

We’ll call this the two story front wall. The door exits onto a porch and stairs later on in the build. All the doors were scratch built despite nicely detailed resin castings included in the kit. Two styles of lamp mounting were utilized on the Bait Shop; metal bracket style as shown here and the traditional “goose neck”. Why? to add variety, visual interest, and to show some planning which separates the two general types of doors. There are two people access doors and two garage/freight style doors. I put the goose necks above the garage style doors and the bracket style at the two people access doors as shown here. In addition, a porcelain/metal sign was added and the position was not a haphazard application. As seen in the next photo, I positioned the sign in such a way as to be visible below the future stairway and just above and to the left of the future soda pop cooler casting that would be placed along the wall. An example of forward planning.

Note: The soda pop cooler is one of Brett’s wonderfully detailed 3D printed detail parts.

I spoke of lateral planning from one wall to another to keep the flow and consistency. Note the rot/damage to the lower right of the wall (shown below). This damage is carried over to the adjacent wall side trim as illustrated. These walls were detailed separately and have not been joined as yet. More walls to come…

KKarns
February 2022

Karl.A
February 2022
I’ll dig out my Shelby’s kit and find the transfer sheet, if it’s still in the box. I’ll do a test on one of the insignificant parts of the sheet, I remember they were OK last time I used one and I never had any problems with the transfer, I think it was a coke transfer.
I can mail you the sheet if you want it.

KKarns
February 2022
I know…Stephen says he didn’t have any real issues either…I think it is a real hit or miss kind of thing. I appreciate the thought but I finished all the walls with what I could get to work and filled in with other signage. My walls on the main structure are too rough for anything to stick there! Lol

Karl.A
February 2022
You’re welcome.

brownbr
March 2022
The planning is sure paying off.

The thumb looks out of scale though.

KKarns
March 2022
Thanks Bryan…ha! Got to keep you O Scalers aware of how small this HO stuff is.

admin
March 2022
Outstanding work on the milled clapboard walls. So much detail and life. Love the light next to the door. Such a common detail that is rarely modeled.
KKarns said:
Thanks Bryan…ha! Got to keep you O Scalers aware of how small this HO stuff is.

Good point!

SteveCuster
March 2022
Excellent work Ken! The colors and textures on everything really look amazing! I recently pulled out the Foss Landing dry transfers for the coke machine and I got one of the transfers to work well but the other one came apart. I think the trick is to burnish it like crazy. The one that worked out I rubbed for a lot longer than I thought I needed to.

kebmo
March 2022 edited March 2022

KKarns said:
Thanks Bryan…ha! Got to keep you O Scalers aware of how small this HO stuff is.

why do suppose we’re modeling in o scale??

Jerry
March 2022
Ken that is some of the best coloring and weathering I’ve seen!

Jerry

TomMich
March 2022
Very nice work on the walls! Colors, textures, and details are excellent! And I appreciate your adnauseam explanation. I hopefully can learn something from it.

KKarns
March 2022
Thanks Brett. I love working with clapboard as a nice change of pace to the board-on-board of Shelby’s main structure…they compliment each other by design!

Appreciate that Steve. Your assessment of the dry transfers is spot on to what I’m finding. The key in my mind is the reliability of the old transfers, which is just not there. You have to be able to count on the success when placing the transfer onto a finished wall that you just spent hours working on!

Certainly is an issue as we get older Kevin!

Well that’s an awfully nice thing to say Jerry, appreciate that.

Hey Tom, nice to know I didn’t offend at least one of the gang! Thanks so much for your comments.

KKarns
March 2022 edited March 2022
The next wall is the lower level front wall that butts up to the wall previously illustrated. Here I feature one of my limited successful sessions of working with the dry transfers. As mentioned, the black lettering seemed to release better than the white. However, even the black was not reliable on the scribed siding. I tried the black lettering on a piece of smooth wood and it did OK but still some small pieces here and there, despite burnishing, did not want to release. So, I experimented with painting the smooth wood white and when the paint was dry to the touch I firmly burnished the black lettering and it stuck really well. Problem is, my walls are not freshly painted and certainly not going to re-do them. So, I decided to make a sign base out of the smooth wood and paint it white and the results worked quite well.

I also wanted to model a screen door to add visual interest and try out a couple of small details. I was going to have the screen door closed with the solid door showing through the closed screen door. This didn’t float my boat when I staged it so I decided to have it propped open with a couple of crates (placed later), this allows both doors to be seen and adds again, visual interest. I fashioned a spring, which is often seen as a closure mechanism for old screen doors…before the piston thingy, out of thin black wire. It’s a tad out of scale but looks fine without magnification. A lamp with the iron bracket rounded out the additional details (see below).

Basically finished first floor front wall. I plan to have some things hanging from hooks along this wall that have a maritime flare, ands still working that out.

Moving onto the first floor end wall. This wall faces the water and large portion of the dock of the Bait & Tackle Shop. I plan to have this end open with a garage style roll-up door and the interior detailed and lit. Call out here to Brett for turning us all on to this beautiful style of door with the Pattern Shop of The Foundry Kit. Don’t know what I’m referring to?..get The Foundry Kit! lol. Since building that kit, and that door, I fell in love with the look and have modeled a similar door a couple of times since. Such a cool detail. A goose neck lamp rounds out the details for this wall.

Jim M
March 2022
These are all really beautiful. You do great work, I’m impressed.

kebmo
March 2022
Jim M said:
These are all really beautiful. You do great work, I’m impressed.

thats an understatement. this is museum worthy. deserves to be on display for all to marvel at.

admin
March 2022
That screen door…

Jim M
March 2022
admin said:
That screen door…

You can almost hear it slam shut.

brownbr
March 2022
Screen door and roll up door are fantastic

KKarns
March 2022
Hi Jim, thanks so much for the note here.

Ahh…don’t know about that Kev, maybe if someone comes up with an SierraWest Scale Model Museum I’ll fill out an application for a donation!

Lol…it does look like that spring has some tension going on…I think it will look cool with a couple of SWSM 3D printed crates propping it open!

KKarns
March 2022
Hey thanks Bryan. I’ve had a blast detailing the windows and doors on this structure…I have some interesting and fun ideas for the open garage door interior details…more later on that…potentially a good spot to “hide” my one LP.

kebmo
March 2022
i wonder how many of our dads hand built a screen door out of 2x2s and 1x2s, some window screen material, two hinges, two handles and spring. every garage had a side door that needed a screen door, and everyone of my friend’s dads (and mine) built one and hung it.
ken’s reminds me of them.

MuddyCreekRR
March 2022
Nicely done…

KKarns
March 2022
Thanks Art.

KKarns
March 2022 edited March 2022
Moving onto the next wall. The first wall featured here is the one that gave me the most trouble with respect to the dry transfer issue. This wall called for a large “Bill-of-Goods” sign with multiple descriptives including the SHELBY’S name. Any problems encountered here would be a glaring issue and simply not worth the risk due to the unreliable white letter transfers that are almost 25 years old. As a result, I made a sign to take it’s place and included a light bar for added interest and an attempt to continue to feature this wall sign as the signature sign for the structure.

For those not totally familiar with Shelby’s, this photo taken from the Shelby’s manual and depicting the wall with the large single transfer decal.

Here is what I came up with as an alternative. Simple and to the point. I tried to reproduce a sign similar to the transfer one that had the listings on the sides and it just didn’t look good. Note the scribed peak is where the roof of the lower level will be. The odd red colors were experiments early on knowing it would not show! I’m not done with detailing the actual sign yet. May add some mounting bolt heads and some additional streaking/weathering.

Detailed shot of the light fixture I made complete with wiring.

KKarns
March 2022 edited March 2022
Here are the walls on the backside of Shelby’s.

And to wrap things up with the final wall. I wanted to experiment with a different type of sign here. The long vertical bare siding to the right of the second story window was a perfect spot for…whatever you call this type of sign. Hinges on the doors are a little too bold, however, looks OK without magnification.

As I was messing around with the screen door, I decided to try modeling a screen for a window. Really liked the look and wish I hadn’t already done all the other windows as I would have done up more like this.

brownbr
March 2022
You definitely came up with a suitable and interesting substitute for the dry transfers.

Are the wires for show or will the lights work?

Jerry
March 2022
Wow! Your detailing has gone crazy a spring for the door what a great detail!

The sign a perfect fit for the building. I guess the original blew off and you had to make a new one for the business incredible work.

Jerry
ALCO
March 2022 edited March 2022
Necessity is the mother of invention. Wonderful idea! And your use of screens is eye-catching.

TomMich
March 2022
Those are some mighty fine walls! The added details really set them apart and make this a truly custom build. Your creativity is admirable.

randyp
March 2022
Beautiful work Ken. The color, weathering, and details are fantastic. I to would like to know if the lights are going to work. By the way, what did you use for the screen material?

sdrees
March 2022
The walls look good Ken like your artistic grunge. Sorry that the dry transfer didn’t work out for you.

KKarns
March 2022
I think it’ll work to a fashion Bryan.No, all exterior lights are just for effect.

Hey Thanks Jerry. I’d been thinking about the spring closure on the screen door way back when I built BlueSky. I did a screen door there as well. The screen was out of scale on that door, so that I have improved on.

Thanks Al, I really like the look on the window.

Appreciate that Tom, got forced in that direction with the transfer issue.Lol.

Thanks Randy. The lights on the exterior are just for effect. I’ll have the main Shelby’s structure and this Bait and Tackle shop lit on the first floor interiors. The screen came from a company that is now out of business. If you like I can PM you the name if interested.

Well Stephen I thank you for that and the transfer issue was disappointing.

KKarns
March 2022
Now that the Bait and Tackle Shop walls are done, I went back and scrutinized the main Shelby’s structure once more before moving on to the next step in the project. As a result, I decided to add a bit of nautical feel to the upper story front wall with a round gable peak (ship portal style) window. Updates from here on out are going to be spotty so trying to trickle these updates out a bit!

Joel
March 2022
Just amazing work. As always. So much to learn from, so much to drool over. I think I’m getting dehydrated.

KKarns
March 2022
Ha…Lol..too kind buddy! Nice hearing from you, trust all is well. Look forward to when we can get together again.

KKarns
March 2022

TomMich
March 2022
Great addition!

KKarns
March 2022
Thanks Tom, I think it works for the nautical flare. Just wanted a close up to highlight the crackle paint.

brownbr
March 2022
It adds a lot of interest

KKarns
March 2022
Mission accomplished then! Thanks Bryan…

KKarns
March 2022 edited March 2022
Shown below is the front wall of the Tool Shop addition of the main Shelby’s structure. I scratch built the single access door and the double freight doors.

Will be adding some simulated hinge pins to all the doors and dull down the metal kick plate mounting screw holes a bit (only obvious in the picture). A variety of door design is an enjoyable modeling project and adds interest to the overall structure.

The back wall of the Tool Shop addition is not visible once the Tool Shop is attached. There is however, an access door from the Tool Shop to the main Shelby’s service area. I decided to build a door with both sides detailed despite only one side being visible in the end.

This door and interior wall will be barely, if at all, visible.

The same door with access into the main Shelby’s service area. There will be a platform with stairs to this door. Note the posts spaced along the walls. These are actually the bracing for the walls. I detailed them to appear as support posts for the second story floor. The part of the wall that’s black will not show as the second story floor will cover this.

The next project in line are the Wharfs for both structures…more later…Ken

TomMich
March 2022
Your doors are really exceptional! I especially like the door stop lever on the double freight door. It’s something that is rarely seen but adds so much to the doors.

KKarns
March 2022
Love it that you noticed that Tom! Made my day…

kebmo
March 2022 edited March 2022
holy crap

kebmo
March 2022
brett, can you possibly 3d print the cargo doors with the door stop? that looks really excellent but its way over my paygrade to make one.

Jerry
March 2022
Beautiful!!

Jerry

KKarns
March 2022
Hey appreciate that Kevin.

Thanks so much Jerry. A little visual interest…

ALCO
March 2022
Door stops, screen doors, exposed framing, crackle paint,…I could go on. It just never stops with you, does it? LOL!!! Your posts of your work-in-progress are very appreciated!

randyp
March 2022
Ken your door with the lovers is top notch especially in HO. Great work.

KKarns
March 2022
Thanks Al. The reason for so many pictures of individual walls…its going to be awhile before these walls are together and seen again.

Appreciate that Randy.

ALCO
March 2022
The more pix, the merrier! So much to see and learn from.

KKarns
March 2022
Glad to hear there is some support out there for the many pictures I have been posting of just walls! Appreciate that.

Joel
March 2022
I agree. I learn so much from poring over each picture. Keep em coming!

kebmo
March 2022
i second or third what everyone says, please keep the pics coming. it’s kinda like a master class, only cheaper.

admin
March 2022
Can’t post too many pics of your work!

Jerry
March 2022
admin said:
Can’t post too many pics of your work!

That says it all!!

Jerry

KKarns
March 2022
Thanks for the feed-back Joel.

Appreciate that Kevin, I hate the thought of the response being "here we go again, more pictures of those damn walls!"lol.

Thanks Brett…you’ve made it so easy to do, don’t want to abuse the privilege!

Thanks much Jerry.

ALCO
March 2022
It’s not just the pix. You’ve always got something to say that I want to hear!

KKarns
March 2022
That’s great Al…I appreciate that..nice to know its not all dribble!lol.

Keep it Rusty
March 2022
Been a hot minute since I’ve checked in around these parts… and boy did I miss some updates! Excellent work, Ken. Very inspiring!
**
KKarns**
March 2022
Thanks much Rusty! Nice hearing from you.

KKarns
April 2022 edited April 2022
Despite the outward appearance of scarcely any activity on Shelby’s, I have been getting some work done on the project.

Three sides of the structure are attached directly to the sill framing. Then the floor decking was added and the wharf decking.

View from the front…

Ample room to "get in there” for detail work. The final wall will be installed just prior to the final detailing.

Another look to illustrate the rounded board edges.

Note the board detailing an the effect of having the different deck board widths.

More later…

randyp
April 2022
Ken I really like the work that you do on the wood. I especially like the detail where the building floor and the deck boards come together at the door. Randy

admin
April 2022
W O W !
Great stuff Ken, love this stage, seeing all that hard work on the walls, windows, and doors suddenly take life.
Flooring looks so good, you can hear the creaks and squeaks!

Joel
April 2022
Love the worn wooden decking. Great stuff as always.

EmeryJ
April 2022
Stellar work as always sir. I particularly like the floor transition.

kebmo
April 2022
it really looks excellent. i can remember the store front/turned library in the little town i grew up in and the floor looked exactly like that. creaked like hell too. i used to ride my bike the 4 mile round trip to return a hardy boys book and get another one to take home. good times, good times…heheheheh.

KKarns
April 2022
Thanks Randy and keep in mind this is just the preliminary weathering and detail work on the floor and decking. Much more to come.

Appreciate that Brett and had a blast detailing the walls but glad to be putting things together finally!

Thanks Emery!..planning where all those stellar 3D parts are going to go…much fun with that.

Hey Kev thanks much. Right…back then we had to make our own fun and adventures now they come on a keyboard and screen!

KKarns
April 2022
Thanks Joel, nice hearing from you.

Jerry
April 2022
Great job on the flooring. I also like the way the building and deck floors meet!

Jerry

KKarns
April 2022
Thanks Jerry.

Jerry
April 2022
I meant to tell you I can use that on the build I’m doing now. How make the floor blend to the dock the Ken Karns way!!

Jerry

KKarns
April 2022
Lol…that and a quarter will get you a cup of coffee…or not!

Once the rest of the floor is down and the final “grunge” gets applied it will blend much better. Looks a bit stark in contrast right now. Thanks for a good lift me up this evening, appreciate the note!

KKarns
May 2022
Quick update on Shelby’s. Have glued the four walls of the second story section of the Bait & Tackle Shop together as shown. I decided to replace the two piece resin roof castings with rafters as I plan to add some roof details that require the sheeting to show under the shake shingles. Working on the interior of the lower level and that of the main structure. Steady as she goes…

Jim M
May 2022
Fantastic.I don’t know how you do it. Crazy good.

KKarns
May 2022
Hey thanks Jim! Small update but needed to blow the dust off my thread here…

Jerry
May 2022
As fine as it gets!! Beautiful coloring and weathering!

Jerry

KKarns
May 2022
Thanks much Jerry. The red tone turned out ok in the end I think. Red seems to grunge up nicely!

Keep it Rusty
May 2022
Wonderful modeling as always, Ken.

KKarns
May 2022
Appreciate that Rusty.

MitchN
May 2022
I would have liked to see what you would do with the original resin roof for the building. I understand you have your own interpretation to follow through on.

KKarns
May 2022
I get that for sure Mitch. I don’t like to change around anything on SierraWest kit just for the sake of making a change as the kit design and materials are superb. I do change things now and again to fit my vision of the project and to allow for certain details that I wish to convey. The roof here is a good example. I want to show a well worn roof with the sub-roof and framing visible here and there, and a resin roof casting would not allow for this, despite the casting being of excellent quality. I’m also not sure it will be a shake roof at this point but leaning in that direction. Also, I wanted the look of classic rafter tails to be visible for added interest and detailing. Thanks for your thoughts here and for making a very good point.

ALCO
May 2022
Taking it to the next level, dude.

TomMich
May 2022
Outstanding! Love the “Boat Repair” sign.

MuddyCreekRR
May 2022
Impressive work as always…love the color…

admin
May 2022
Absolutely fantastic! Love where this little structure is going!

KKarns
May 2022
Well thanks much Al and nice hearing from you.

Hey Tom, always a good day when I hear from you! Thanks so much and really enjoyed you mentioning the sign. First go at a sign mounted this way. I also installed a light bar above the sign that would illuminate both sides (non-functioning). Not easy to discern in the picture, but I will get more detailed shots of it once the structure is done. Inspiration came from a light fixture that Chuck Doan modeled.

Thanks Art, getting the color right as I envisioned was a big concern going into it. Too red and it looks cartoonish, not enough red and it looks washed out and gets lost in the diorama.

Damn man!..Only you could come up with a small structure like this that has so much character and detailed modeling opportunities…can’t stop messin around with it, and that’s just the two story section. Thanks for your input and guidance as always.

SteveCuster
May 2022
Excellent work as always Ken!

KKarns
May 2022
Hi Steve. Not much of an update but the thread has been collecting dust so needed to stir things up a bit, both me and the thread! Thanks much for your thoughts and always nice talking with you. Look forward to an update on your current project.

Joel
May 2022
Weatherbeaten. Can’t think of a nicer compliment.

KKarns
May 2022
I agree Joel! Thanks much my friend and trust all is well up north. Brett’s development of the 3D detail parts has propelled the work on these beautiful kits to a new level. So exciting to build these classic kits with the ability to introduce the new 3D details. Keep in touch.
**
brownbr**
May 2022
Up to your usual standards.

I think the area with the rotted away boards would be a good spot for a rat’s nest.

randyp
May 2022
Ken, I agree with all the other comments about the weathered color. And those rafters are going to look great sticking out from under what ever kin of roofing material you decide to use. I really like the sign with the double lights. It is a shame that you are not going to power them. That would look so cool. Randy

KKarns
May 2022
Thanks Bryan…maybe some debris in the space would look interesting…rats nest?..ehew!..hehe.

Thanks so much Randy. The detailing of the roof is going to be enjoyable and nothing like exposed rafter tails to add interest. Actual working lights there would look nifty for sure. I plan to light the addition on the Bait & Tackle Shop and the first floor of the main structure, so I’m getting more into the lighting. Although, not my strong suit that’s for sure.

KKarns
June 2022
Quick update on Shelby’s. I attached the Bait & Tackle Shop to the wharf joists before applying the deck boards. As I mentioned previous, I wanted the appearance of the deck boards butting up to the structure rather than running underneath. This also allows the sill under the structure and the base framing to join without the decking in between.

Note how the structure sits firmly on the dock framing and the deck boards are butting up to the structure.

The lower level addition on the Bait & Tackle Shop will be lit. I have detailed the interior a bit to add some visual interest.

I have completed the initial weathering on the interior and floor of the main structure. Now all that remains is to detail the interior!

The following images show a before and after of the board end detailing and weathering at the front entrance:

Unweathered board detailing. Note the spliced in repair pieces.

Rails added and weathering completed.

More later…Ken

PaulS
June 2022
Just fantastic Ken !!
I do like the Bait Shop sitting on the dock framing and the deck boards running up to the shop. A really nice adjustment and a testament not only to your eye and modeling but the planning you put into your builds.
Excellent as always and looking forward to your continued progress.
–Paul
**
kebmo**
June 2022
the whole thing looks great, but i especially like the detailed interior. very well done, but that’s just what we expect from mr. karnes.

KKarns
June 2022
Thanks much Paul. Nice to hear you appreciate the “little things” that when combined, make a big difference in the end result. Not sure anyone has built the main structure and attached it to the wharf missing one whole wall before!

Nice hearing from you Kevin and appreciate your kind words. Sorry the interior shot is not very well done but the depth of field was tough to get. Once the interior is lit I should be able to improve the photo.

Jerry
June 2022
Hey Ken beautiful work. Really liked the idea of the Shop sitting down and decking running up to it.

Jerry

KKarns
June 2022 edited June 2022
Hey thanks a lot Jerry, appreciate it.

MuddyCreekRR
June 2022
As always…looks realer than real…

KKarns
June 2022
Thanks “Muddy”

I took a couple pictures outside as I wanted to make a point regarding the color tone separation of the decking. In a situation like the main structure, where the floor and deck boards are all on the same plane, a different weathering and color tone is important to separate the two visually and add interest as well as provide a more prototypical appearance. The outside decking would be subject to more weather related weathering and the interior would weather more related to shop activities and general dirt and grime. It would be unrealistic to have the strip wood in both areas stained/colored with the same tone.

Note the subtile difference in color tones and weathering between the interior and exterior portions of the decking.

Additional image that illustrates the color tone and weathering. Note the more gray and bleached out color of the exterior decking compared to the dirty, grungy, interior.

SteveCuster
June 2022
Looks great Ken! Starting to really come together now.

vietnamseabee
June 2022
Ken….kudos to you for always thinking beyond the obvious…..if I were to Google “ thinking outside the box” I bet a picture of the Ken-meister sitting at a modeling bench would show up!!! Well done Ken
Terry

KKarns
June 2022
Hey Steve, nice hearing from you and appreciate ya!

Very nice compliment Terry, thanks much. But really…I model so slow that I have to make a big deal about little things to keep the thread above water! Ha.

admin
June 2022
Love the color difference between the interior and exterior. Such a small detail that is cumulative and creates a more realistic model in the end!

KKarns
June 2022
What Brett said!..Thanks for your input my good man.

ALCO
June 2022
Perfect examples of how your extensive pre-planning pays off!

KKarns
June 2022
Thanks so much Al, I do a lot of that, probably too much. Less fiddling around and more building…nah, the planning is a big part of the fun.

TomMich
June 2022
Great work as always Ken! Really like how you add the little extra details like the repairs to the floor, and the damage to the boards between the rails. Lots of inspiration here!

KKarns
June 2022
Thanks Tom, made my day that you noticed and appreciate those subtile details.

ALCO
June 2022
“Measure twice, cut once.” Best to think it out before hand. Good advice, Ken.

KKarns
June 2022
True that!

brownbr
June 2022
Looks really good.

KKarns
June 2022
Thanks Bryan.

Joel
June 2022
Just fantastic work as always. Love the detailed interior.

KKarns
June 2022
Hey Joel, Nice hearing from you as always, and appreciate your thoughts. Trust all is well up north of the border!

Jeroen
June 2022
Just became a member Ken, so I’m finally able to tell you how much I enjoy your projects and it’s great to see this come together. I really love what you’re doing to this wonderful kit!

KKarns
June 2022
Hey Jeroen, So nice to see you here now! Enjoyed our conversations off forum but this is the place to be…well done! Thanks so much for your camaraderie and support. Look forward to your posts here and any future builds you have lined up.

KKarns
June 2022 edited June 2022
Took a short break from my other project (SWSM) and got a bit done on Shelby’s Bait and Tackle Shop.

As I mentioned previously, I decided to attach the structure to the wharf framing first, then lay in the deck boards. I did this so it didn’t appear the structure was sitting on the deck boards but rather the deck boards were laid up to the structure…if that makes any sense! I have really enjoyed working on and detailing the structure with it mounted to the wharf rather than attach the wharf to the diorama base then later placing the structure on top. This allows manipulation of the entire scene, kind of handy.

I finished the deck boards and extended the deck on the back side of the shop to allow foot traffic down the back side. I finished up the rafters on the sub roof (see images below) and will be installing perpendicular purlins prior to the shake shingle roof…one shingle at a time!

Not a great image but the issue here is the detailed interior. I did a form of “forced perspective”. The front counter was scratch built and placed as you see it just inside the roll up door. A SierraWest shelf casting, that was by scale slightly smaller then the front counter, was detailed and glued in place behind the front counter. Finally, I printed some store shelf pictures from and old dry good store and sized them even smaller on my desktop and glued them to the back and side walls. This gives the impression of the tackle shop having depth and filled with product…

More later, Ken

ALCO
June 2022
You are certainly taking things to a new (higher) level with the small touches you’re adding. You are squeezing so much artistry and craftsmanship value out of a box of strip wood. I am but a humble journeyman assembler in your presence. (Yes, I am a fanboy LOL). Always grateful for your posts.

TomMich
June 2022
Looking GREAT Ken! The interior visible really adds interest to the build.

vietnamseabee
June 2022
Looking great Ken…..so many of the little things you do make a big impact on the total model. So many times I look at your posting and slap my forehead thinking “ why didn’t I think of that”
Terry

KKarns
June 2022
Really appreciate your thoughts here Al. Next post will show my go at a scratch built shake shingle roof…

Thanks Tom, there is an LED light in there I installed before framing the roof, it should show the interior to good effect when things are all buttoned up.

Thanks much Terry. Not a big update but some work done none the less!

Joel
June 2022
Just fantastic Ken. Love the interior.

Jerry
June 2022
Now that is an impressive structure!!

Jerry

randyp
June 2022
Ken as usual a great build. Looking forward to seeing you do the shake shingles. What are you going to use for the shakes? I was in Florida two weeks ago. I went to a cigar store with my brother in law. I got a good supply of the thin cider used in cigar boxes. I think I may try that when I get to the shake shingles on my rigging shed. My only concern is the color. Changing the redish cider color to the weathered gray of an old roof. Always good to see one of your builds. Randy

Jeroen
June 2022
Superb work. Pictures taken in daylight show really well how realistic this is. Love the colors and weathering. That floor is magnificent and those signs… eyecandy all over Ken!

KKarns
July 2022
Hey thanks Joel! There are a couple of SWSM 3D detail parts in there…

Appreciate that Jerry. I really love all three structures that make up Shelby’s…so much character, looking forward to filling up the main building with 3 D details!

Thanks Randy! I think I’m going to try making my shingles from 1x8 stripwood for the exact reasons you mention…I can get after the wood with the wire brush and detail blade and get them as weathered as I want. I can then get the exact color I want by “staining” the raw stripwood. Sanding one end of the shingle really thin may be taking things too far but may try that as well.

Nice hearing from you as always Jeroen and thanks for your thoughts and your support on the signage. I had to come up with alternatives as the old dry transfers just weren’t getting it! Lol. Think it worked out in the end but not sure CocaCola would approve of a B&W sign…Ha.

MuddyCreekRR
July 2022
Always amazed at what you do in HO…looking forward to seeing the shingles…

KKarns
July 2022
Appreciate that Art. Will keep you posted…

admin
July 2022
Now that’s a thing of beauty, so much detail to see here in such a small structure.

MuddyCreekRR
July 2022
I was playing around with wood veneer strips…available at most hardware big box stores…easily cut down with a Slicer or Chopper…and they stain well…available in different wood type too…

KKarns
July 2022 edited July 2022
Thanks Brett.

Well Art, I have now reversed direction and decided not to roof the Bait & Tackle Shop with “shake shingles”. I laid in an area on the roof and it just wasn’t doin it for me. Not the look I like or wanted, so off they came. I’ll be doing a metal roof and the mock up gave me a better feeling about the final product albeit less of a “maritime” feel than old shake roof might have been. However, the metal roof suits my modeling style much better. Appreciate your input and there is the hoist shed yet to go…maybe there…hmmm.

brownbr
July 2022
Looks great.

1 shingle at a time is the only way to go.

MuddyCreekRR
July 2022
I did forget that you do the “wee scale” for a minute and part of the reason I went to O (On30) was the effort to work that small…a lot less room for error in the detail…I’m sure your metal roofing will look great…

KKarns
July 2022
Right Art, I’m working the little stuff but like where I am for now. The real issue wasn’t the difficulty in getting the shingles to work, it was just the look wasn’t what I wanted. I have the metal roof on and it is exactly what I was going for so it worked out.

kebmo
July 2022
randyp said:
Ken as usual a great build. Looking forward to seeing you do the shake shingles. What are you going to use for the shakes? I was in Florida two weeks ago. I went to a cigar store with my brother in law. I got a good supply of the thin cider used in cigar boxes. I think I may try that when I get to the shake shingles on my rigging shed. My only concern is the color. Changing the redish cider color to the weathered gray of an old roof. Always good to see one of your builds. Randy

randy,
i did the same thing, but found it very difficult to get the color right on the cigar box cedar. i never did get the color i was hoping for, so i scrapped the idea.

kebmo
July 2022
ken, shelbys looks fantastic and i can’t wait to see all there buidings together.

KKarns
July 2022
I hear ya Kevin! My issue was more just getting the look, and that hard to describe “feel” that I wanted for the structure. The whole time I was putting on the shingles I wasn’t happy with how it was progressing. As soon as I put on the first metal roof panel it was like “there it is!”…

kebmo
July 2022
that was supposed to say all three buildings together..

KKarns
July 2022
Thanks Kevin and yup, got what you meant and finishing up the Bait & Tackle shop today; roofs on, staircase and landing done and have the roof caps and some stacks to go and call it done until its on the diorama.

kebmo
July 2022
always an exciting time in the build.

KKarns
July 2022
For sure!

EmeryJ
July 2022
Ken, never enough adjectives to say how much I love seeing your work. Great stuff here.

KKarns
July 2022
Hey Emery, well so much appreciate that my friend! You know, can’t thank you enough for all your work on the 3D detail parts. I’m so excited to be able to add these gems to my Shelby’s diorama. Now get back to your 1:1 Kitchen Diorama!..heard its looking goood…

KKarns
July 2022
Putting final details on the Bait & Tackle Shop of the Shelby’s build. A real nice resin chimney casting was included in the kit. It was originally designed as a brick chimney with a cement cap and an angled hood with a round stack coming out of the top (see figure 1. taken from Brett’s construction manual)

(Figure 1.)

I wanted to move this chimney from the lower level addition up to the roof of the two story structure. I felt the amount of vertical dimension of the chimney with the metal stack moved to the already taller two story portion, would make things appear too vertical. I did want some character and to put my personal touch on the piece, so I cut the angle hood off the chimney, drilled four holes in the top and inserted four styrene rods and then glued the hood back on. Gives it a unique look and cuts down on the overall height making it perfect for the roof in question (see figure 2. below)

Simple little modified detail that makes building SWSM kits so enjoyable!

Robert.G
July 2022
Ken is no doubt the HO master !!! He must have Eagle eye sight !! :slight_smile:

ALCO
July 2022
All of the detail parts are shaking in their boots! Oh no, it’s Karns again! Run! Run!

TomMich
July 2022
Nice change to the chimney. You really come up with some nice subtle ideas to make each kit your own.

KKarns
July 2022
Thanks Robert and so far so good with keeping an eye on the 1:87 stuff!

Right Al, detail the details with a bigger hammer!..or saw in this case.

Appreciate that Tom. Worked out well to get the height down a bit for the move.

KKarns
July 2022
Quick update on the Shelby’s build. The Bait & Tackle Shop is essentially done save for some minor details and further weathering once the structure is planted in the diorama.
On to the main structure interior…

admin
July 2022
Superb! Really love the metal roofing and screen door.

KKarns
July 2022
Thanks Brett, appreciate that. The finished diorama the screen door will be a bit further closed than is shown and will not be sitting square against the stairs. Will also be weathering the roof with some rust stains, debris along the back edge, etc…Beautiful design by the way, so much character packed into such a small structure.

randyp
July 2022
Ken I like everything about the building. A nice touch to have the hole in the roof. How about a scale spring for the screen door. That way it would close and not block the stairs. Keep up the beautiful build. I am looking forward to seeing when you get it all put together. Randy

a nice touch

KKarns
July 2022
Thanks Randy, and there is a spring! I’ll have a cinder block or something nautical holding the door open once the structure is planted. Nice that you noticed the need for that detail!

ALCO
July 2022
Looks great! Looking forward to seeing this door spring and how the spring wire is wound round and round and the circular attach point on each end and the hooks into the door and frame, etc. You can do that, right? (LOL but still anxious to see what’s up your sleeve!)

Jerry
July 2022
Beautiful work!!!

Jerry

Robert.G
July 2022
Ken, all is said before, just beautiful and great eye for detail !!!

KKarns
July 2022
Thanks Al. The spring is shown better on page #7 of this thread, although not quite that detailed!

Appreciate that Jerry and nice hearing from you.

Hey Robert, thanks so much.

MuddyCreekRR
July 2022
Always impressed with your attention to details…Great Work…

KKarns
July 2022
Thanks Art, nice hearing from you.

MuddyCreekRR
July 2022
Currently I’ve been just watching from the sidelines as I even though retired…have little free time to get into the shop to do any modeling…but I’m trying…

brownbr
July 2022
It looks fantastic.

KKarns
July 2022
Hey really appreciate that Bryan!

kebmo
July 2022
wow…

KKarns
July 2022
Hey Kevin, thanks my friend!

Joel
July 2022
Just beautiful work. Thanks for taking the time to document all this. It’s a chore but it is so appreciated.

KKarns
July 2022
Hey Joel, Nice hearing from you as always! I really appreciate you mentioning that as I often feel that I post updates that are lack luster and with only minimal additional subject matter. Nice to hear that its useful and not creating modeling adnauseam!lol.

SteveCuster
July 2022
Fantastic work as usual Ken!

KKarns
July 2022
Thanks so much Steve and nice hearing from you. Can’t wait to get together again sometime soon…been way to long!

KKarns
July 2022
Fiddling around with detailing the interior of Shelby’s main structure. Scratch built a small cabinet just to experiment a bit. Turned out OK for how small it is! Lots of SWSM 3D parts are going into the interior and more on that later…

kebmo
July 2022
very nice little cabinet. send it to brett so he can make a mold of it and share it with the class!!

KKarns
July 2022
That thing was a lot of work. I could detail several of Brett’s resin cabinets for every one of these!

kebmo
July 2022
but wouldn’t it be cool to know that one of the castings you’re detailing is of one of your original creations??

KKarns
July 2022
For sure would be very cool, but nothing here that hasn’t been done…wanted to see how it would look. I built the siding around a piece of solid wood. Big advantage would be the ability to build one to the exact dimension needed for a particular spot.

randyp
July 2022
Ken, I agree with kevin. The hinges and latch look great. They look to be just the right size. Randy

KKarns
July 2022
Thanks much Randy, it was fun little project. The interior is coming along nicely and already sucking up a bunch of my coveted SierraWest 3D detail parts!

brownbr
July 2022
Nice cabinet. Will you stash some beer bottles inside?

KKarns
July 2022
Well of course!..All work and no play…

ALCO
July 2022
Do the hinges work? (LOL)

vietnamseabee
July 2022
Al…. I actually have some HO brass hinges that work
Terry

ALCO
July 2022
Knock me over with a feather!

TomMich
July 2022
Ken, I’ve been out of town for a while and just returned to see what a great looking the structure turned out. Also like the cabinet. Can’t have too many interesting details!

Joel
July 2022
Great little mini project. So looking forward to seeing what you do with the interior.

KKarns
July 2022
Hey thanks for checking in Tom. Appreciate that and right on with the details!

Thanks Joel. Right, the cabinet was just to get something posted while the interior detailing is being worked on. Nice to get a little filler project up to keep the thread more current for slow modelers like me!

TomMich
July 2022
Once in a while it’s nice to take a break from a larger project and mess around with some smaller items that have been mulling around in the back of your mind.

KKarns
July 2022
Perfectly stated Tom…From now on I’ll respond as… “what Tom said” !

KKarns
July 2022
Scratch built a floor to ceiling storage unit for the main structure. This will serve to store boat repair lumber and other supplies. Many of Brett’s 3D Detail Parts will populate this shelf unit. Makes for many great detail opportunities in and around it.

Note the permanent ladder attached to access the top level with grab handles and “chain link” fence around the perimeter for safety purposes.

Robert.G
July 2022
Fantastic work !!!

brownbr
July 2022
Safety first of course.

KKarns
July 2022
Thanks much Robert. These details will be difficult to see easily once the interior is complete and the last wall is put in place. Wanted to document the main features as I go.

kebmo
July 2022
nice detail. i need one of those in my garage.

KKarns
July 2022
Thanks Kevin.

ALCO

July 2022
Slick!

Jerry
July 2022
Great detail!!

Jerry

KKarns
July 2022
Thanks Al, appreciate that.

Hey Jerry, will be fun filling the shelves with details!

TomMich
July 2022
Nice Ken! Are those “metal” straps on the ends of the shelves, or corner brackets? In any case nice detail! Can’t wait to see if filled with details! Love the fencing on the top shelf.

KKarns
July 2022
Thanks so much Tom and for your interest, kind words, and noticing the additional little details. I wanted to add interest to an otherwise somewhat boring shelf unit. I added the “metal” corner brackets which I made from paper cut to size. The top level would allow a 1:87 scale LP to walk around so added the ladder, had rails, and fencing primarily for visual interest but supposedly functional as well. I like to place major pieces around the interior of my structure and then begin filling in the smaller details. The placement of the large pieces gives me a better feel for traffic flow and what smaller details I want to include.

MuddyCreekRR
July 2022
WOW…

KKarns
July 2022
I’ll take that!..thanks much Art.

Jim M
July 2022
Such a cool detail. Incredible modeling

KKarns
July 2022
Well hey Jim, nice hearing from you as always. Appreciate your thoughts here my friend.

admin
July 2022
Looking forward to seeing this little gem located and detailed up!

KKarns
July 2022
Thanks Brett. Having so much fun working on Shelbys…such a classic.

kebmo
July 2022
what do you use for chain link fencing?

BenPopper
July 2022
Those little corner braces make the entire thing more 3 dimensional. They add that little bit that makes it more than just glued together. I am definitely appropriating that idea

KKarns
July 2022
Hey Kevin, the fence was made from wedding tulle.

Really nice you noticed that Ben, that’s exactly why I did that! Adds so much more interest and gives a much more substantial look than the boards just butted together.

Joel
July 2022
Just amazing! I love the detail that put in every little detail. Jaw dropping at times.
Thanks

KKarns
July 2022 edited July 2022
Really appreciate your input Joel, means a great deal my friend!

EmeryJ
August 2022
Every time I say to myself, “Ken has outdone himself on this one”, you come up with another beauty. That shelf unit is really cool. Well done sir.

KKarns
August 2022
Hey Emery, nice hearing from you! Appreciate your thoughts here. Interior appointments are coming along and should have a more comprehensive update soon.

KKarns
August 2022 edited August 2022
Before posting an update on Shelby’s…If you haven’t seen Brett’s new O Scale kit featured here on the web-site…what’s wrong with you?? A must see of this beautiful piece of work!

The following excerpt illustrates the concept, even in kit building, of planning ahead to achieve the overall goals of your build. Most may not be interested in this lengthy descriptive of what I’m doing, so exit now and go check out Brett’s new kit!

I am moving along with the interior work on Shelby’s main structure. The plan is to fully detail the interior including lights. The first and second floor walls are built separate, and a bit differently, due to the interior of the first floor being visible through the two large openings in the front and side of the structure. After the upper and lower walls are built they are joined together to form one solid wall. The call out in the instructions is for the first floor walls to be framed in scale 4x4 stripwood. I wanted a more in scale framing so I decided to frame the walls in scale 2x4s. On one hand this gives a more “in scale” appearance for the purist, but on the other hand, allows the walls to be less rigid and prone to warping. The interior of the upper level will not be visible so those walls were braced with the traditional 1/4 inch wood pieces. To solve the problem of the lower walls warping, I braced them with scale 8x8s giving the posts the appearance they are functional in supporting the upper level. These posts extended above to the upper level to a help secure the joining of both levels into one flat, straight, wall. (see figure 1.)

(figure 1.) Note the finished and detailed “bracing” that appear as support posts for the upper level.

As mentioned earlier, I assembled three of the four walls to allow access to detailing the interior. This created issues with the final wall attachment after everything else is done. Once those issues were sorted out, I turned my attention to the floor of the upper level. This floor would obviously be visible through the two large openings in the lower level front and side. I will be detailing the ceiling of the lower level with shop lights, wiring, and other details. The floor material of the upper level is scribed flooring in three pieces that are put together and braced. The simulated floor boards run perpendicular to the long dimension of the floor. Problem with this is, I wanted to put joists under the floor that would tie into the posts I used as bracing for the lower walls. This adds a nice level of visual interest. As a result, my joist would be running the same direction as the second story floor boards. This of course can’t happen as the floor boards always run perpendicular to the joists. Solution…I covered the underside of the floor with stripwood running the opposite direction of the scribed floor boards. (see figure 2.)

(figure 2.) Note the very end of the right side of the floor. This is the original scribed floor piece. This portion is the underside of a slight overhang on the front of Shelby’s and will be covered as the rest of the floor after it is installed. I had to notch out the floor everywhere there was a support post. This allows the floor to be installed as well before the final wall is put in place. (see figures 3, 4, and 5.)

(figure 3.) View from above of the second floor flooring in place.

(figure 4.) Second floor flooring in place and set up to allow all this to be completed with the final wall installed once all the detailing is done.

(figure 5.) Note the overhang in front. The underside here will be covered in the second layer of stripwood running the short length.

Here is a shot of the second story floor (figure 6.) in place with rafters installed. This roof piece is removable, allowing for the lights and any final details to be added.

Here is the nearly finished shelf unit that will be in the interior of the main structure. There are 15 of Brett’s 3D details in this piece alone!

TomMich
August 2022
The logistics of your ceiling are amazing. Everything looks like it fits together so nicely. Great planning! That is one expensive shelf unit, but it turned out great. I like the addition of the hand grabs at the top of the ladder.

brownbr
August 2022
Well executed. I’m a big fan of the tarp on the bottom shelf

CarlLaskey
August 2022
Ken.
Can you speed it up some I am going to be 80 this year and I hope to see this finished…Carl…

admin
August 2022 edited August 2022
That is simply incredible… oh those tiny 3D Printed bottles!

sdrees
August 2022 edited August 2022
Glad to hear that you are going to put lights in it. With the dark walls, the lights will show off all your wonderful interior details. Otherwise, all the details you so worked your butt on would be very hard for somebody to enjoy.

KKarns
August 2022
Glad you can appreciate the maneuvering for the ceiling work Tom, love this kind of work.

Nice point out Bryan! its a bit hard to see with my thumb partially in the shot.

Lol…right on Carl…I hear ya my friend! I’m slow there is not question about that. Now that the floor panel is all fitted up I should start sailing along…thats the plan anyway.

Thanks much Brett. Yup, the galvanized wash tub has a coke wooden flat in it with two soda bottles and in front of the tub are three of those sweet little bottles, two upright and one on its side. That makes seven 3D parts right there…love working with them.

You are so right regarding the lighting Stephen, and I noted that from your fabulous work on this kit. Anyone who hasn’t seen Stephen’s Shelby’s build should check it out in the gallery. This structure, with its two large unobstructed openings, makes it perfect for lighting it up!

Jerry
August 2022
Amazing work!! Ken you’re really a detail man for sure as the shelf attests to that!!

Jerry

Jeroen
August 2022
The thing that keeps amazing me Ken are the colors. I just can’t stop looking at the richness and variation. That in combination with the muted effects are just so realistic and credible. I’m still trying to get better at that myself and I’m looking for ways to use more than pastel chalks alone. I started working on a logging camp section trying to achieve better results than I did with my first module. It’s so nice to try, to learn and to improve. Your work is without a doubt something to aspire to and I’m very curious how this will all come together. Keep up the great work!

Robert.G
August 2022
Ken, this is just more of your amazing work.. In HO !!! Glad you took photos because once everything is put together, much will be out of sight.

KKarns
August 2022
Hey Jeroen, nice hearing from you and really appreciate your thoughts here. You stated, in my opinion, the key to using colors in scale modeling…lots of color but nothing that stands out. I have made a point to add more color in my modeling which for me, is hard since I model on the “grunge” side of things! I love to try new things as well, with a goal to attempt something new with every build. For Shelby’s it will be the water and a water front diorama. Thanks again and keep in touch.

Thanks Robert and that’s exactly right regarding the photos. I like to document major pieces that go into an interior detailing for just that reason, they are often hard to see once they are planted.

TomMich
August 2022
Ken, you’ll have to make sure that shelf is not hidden inside the structure. Even with a lighted interior it would be a shame to have it obscured.

KKarns
August 2022
Thanks so much Jerry! Missed ya on the first go, sorry bout that. Get a little carried away with the details sometimes that’s for sure…can’t help it particularly with the wonderful 3D parts Brett’s producing. Have placed over 30 3D detail parts in the interior of Shelby’s in just one 2" x 3" corner alone! How many gas cans should a facility like this have?..say a whole bunch…please!..love detailing those cans.

Hey Tom, should be reasonably visible once things are buttoned up. Thanks for your banter here on the forum, enjoy our conversation.

TomMich
August 2022
Thank you Ken for sharing your work. I always get ideas and inspiration from your creative ideas.

KKarns
August 2022
Glad to hear Tom and thanks.

EmeryJ
August 2022
I see grab handles and a ladder on that left side??

KKarns
August 2022
Right you are Emery…adds a little interest to an otherwise boring shelf unit!

EmeryJ
August 2022
Very far from boring sir! A whole lot of stuff going on in such a small space. Hope you are not going to hide that where one can not see all that detail.

KKarns
August 2022
Looks Ok so far but haven’t put up that last wall yet…hopefully with some lighting it will be visible enough to see what’s there.

KKarns
August 2022 edited August 2022
As I’m working through the interior details of Shelby’s main structure, wanted to “finger post” a couple of details I came up with for added interest:

The first is a pipe and bar stock rack that I made. I took two metal ladders that I had in my parts bin and cut one side rail off of each one. I then fashioned the remainder from styrene and glued it up with Loctite super glue (best re-sealable cap on the market!). Shot it with Tamiya spray paint and weathered.

Lunch hooks for scale! The rack is designed to sit slightly at a backward angle to keep bar stock from rolling off the support bars.

The second is a take on a basic work bench. I built the bench from stripwood and then for added interest, put a metal sheet work surface on the bench. This is just paper cut to size and weathered as a piece of sheet metal stock attached to the surface of the bench.

More later…Ken

Robert.G
August 2022
WOW, great details. They should be in the SW catalogue :slight_smile:
How do you keep your fingers and nails so clean when weathering ? :slight_smile: :slight_smile:

brownbr
August 2022
Great additions

KKarns
August 2022
Thanks much Robert…picture caught me at a
good time!

Appreciate that Bryan. Just populated the rack with pipes and bar stock and glued it in place…happy with it thus far.

TomMich
August 2022
Nice custom details. That pipe rack should be 3D printed!

KKarns
August 2022
Thanks Tom. Looks really good full of old pipes and bar stock.

kebmo
August 2022
KKarns said:
Thanks Tom. Looks really good full of old pipes and bar stock.

bar stock? club soda, tonic, bloody mary mix?

SteveF
August 2022
Very ingenious details Ken. I really like the idea of using two ladders for the pipe rack. Not sure how you pulled this off in HO scale but definitely something I would like to try in O.
I have seen metal top work benches and never thought about modeling them. I remember seeing one where the metal was over lapping the front edge and bent down at an angle over it, maybe to make it easier to clean spills. I may borrow your idea for the tool shed, hope you don’t mind. Thanks again for leading the way with your incredible modeling skills and great ideas.

KKarns
August 2022
Appreciate that Steve. Hey like your thoughts on the metal bent over the edge…heck yeah…I’d love to see you do a bench like that in O Scale. Next one I do I’ll bend the “metal” over the front edge!

KKarns
August 2022
Ha Kevin…nice thought…a wet bar in my Shelby’s shop!

kebmo
August 2022
KKarns said:
Ha Kevin…nice thought…a wet bar in my Shelby’s shop!

bloody mary = fisherman’s breakfast… throw in a pickled egg and he’s good for the day.

KKarns
September 2022 edited September 2022
Providing a much needed update on my Shelby’s build. I have been busy detailing the interior of the main structure, which chews up a great deal of time as well as detail parts. There are 71 SierraWest Scale Models 3D printed detail parts in this update alone. I have a few things to fiddle with yet but basically it’s done other than the second floor, which is the ceiling for the bottom level shown here. I also have the interior of the missing side wall to finish detailing. This will be imaged when completed. Will provide some close up detail shots here and there after this post.

admin
September 2022
Uhmmmmmm, speechless. wow!

Karl.A
September 2022
Excellent.

KKarns
September 2022
Thanks men! Lots of nice 3D details to work with.

Jim M
September 2022
Really looks fantastic

SteveF
September 2022
Incredible! Looks like 1:1. The layout and types of all the details are a perfect match for a real facility. I can’t believe the amount of work you put in to each detail. Simply the best, Ken!

Robert.G
September 2022
I completely agree with all the above !!! Outstanding..

Jeroen
September 2022 edited September 2022
Incredible work Ken. Your painting and weathering are amazing. Just Wow! There’s so much to see and everything is finished with such care. The weathering on the yellow drums for example… what a joy to watch and follow. Eyecandy!

Mountaingoat
September 2022
I echo all of the above. I think back what we could do before. The advancement of both details and techniques in the past few years is incredible. What lays ahead? That said what you have accomplished here is just incredible…Rick

kebmo
September 2022
wow. i’m plum out of superlatives. this looks like something you could find on shorpy’s.

CarlLaskey
September 2022
Ken Very nice display of all of your work. Thank’s

EmeryJ
September 2022
Too many spectacular details to comment on in one post. So many great ideas. The ashes and kindling in front of the shop stove really popped out to me. That is just one example of the creativity level here. Excellent work Ken!

MuddyCreekRR
September 2022
Excellent work as always…love all the details

TomMich
September 2022
Simply amazing Ken! The more I look the more I see! Love the hand rail on the stairs and platform.

admin
September 2022
TomMich said:
Simply amazing Ken! The more I look the more I see.

Well said Tom! I keep going back and believe this is your best work.

KKarns
September 2022 173.88.78.186
Appreciate that Brett. Your details are just incredible and so easy to work with. Can’t get enough.

Thanks Jim.

Nice hearing from you Steve and thanks. The various scenes are difficult to envision and getting started is daunting. However, once I get the general feel of where I’m going it just starts rolling along.

Thanks Robert.

Hey Jeroen, appreciate your thoughts my friend.

Thanks much Rick. Brett’s 3D detail parts are a game changer for sure. So many possibilities.

Thanks much Kevin.

Thanks Carl.

Appreciate your thoughts here Emery. I was going to put in a potbelly stove, but when I saw Brett’s barrel stove, that sealed the deal! There is actually an ash pan in front there just hard to tell.

Hey thanks Al.

Thanks much Tom. The stairs, landing, and railing made for great detail and clutter to reside. I should have left some space to see underneath.

Jerry
September 2022
Ken I think you’ve outdone yourself this time. Just a wonderful display of your work!!

Jerry

brownbr
September 2022
Outstanding! Everything is so well done. The electric box with multiple conduits entering is a bonus addition.

KKarns
September 2022
Hey thanks Jerry!

Appreciate that Bryan. Thanks for noticing the electrical work. The larger conduit making a hard right is going outside to feed the hoist shed next door.

ALCO
September 2022
Damn, raising the bar again?

KKarns
September 2022
Ahh…don’t know about that…

Jerry
September 2022
KKarns said:
Ahh…don’t know about that…

Don’t be bashful take a bow!! You deserve the recognition!

Jerry

Jeroen
September 2022
Just noticed the coat and hat near the door at the platform. Man….

KKarns
September 2022
Thanks for the support Jerry!

Hey Jeroen. With the image sizing restraint its a bit hard to see things, but appreciate ya for pointing those details out. I put those two details in my Eureka Springs build and they are such a cool detail I’ll be adding them to every build I do.

KKarns
September 2022
Finished the interior of the last remaining wall of Shelby’s main structure. This wall was left off to allow unobstructed access to the interior. These details would be very difficult to place if this wall was attached to the structure and requires a bit of pre-planning. This area is where water plumbing is brought into the building and is appropriately backed up by the location of the exterior plumbing that will be done later on.

I would also like to point out the versatility of Brett’s 3D printed detail parts. The open cabinet with shelves is one of Brett’s open crates turned up on its end and two pieces of strip wood added for shelving. The other cabinet, with the porcelain knobs, is one of the solid “wood” crates also turned up on its end. Of course note the wonderful sink and water cooler 3D details!

ALCO
September 2022
WOW! Concept and execution are ground-breaking! Dio within a dio.

TomMich
September 2022
Awesome details Ken! Creative adaptation of the shelves. Nice!

BenPopper
September 2022
This interior is setting the bar at a level I have a hard time seeing…

Robert.G
September 2022
Just amazing work !!!

CarlLaskey
September 2022
Ken
Will it have running water. .???

brownbr
September 2022
Love it! What I see is a dirty sink to wash dirty hands. Funny!

KKarns
September 2022
Thanks Al, makes it nice to detail walls when you can lay them flat on your bench!

Appreciate that Tom.

Thanks Ben, just got second floor put in today.

Thanks much Robert.

Have the plumbing for it Carl!

Thanks Bryan. Yup, hard water and rust stains in the sink…can’t let anything go “ungrunged”!

KKarns
September 2022
Installed the second story floor (first floor roof) and the lighting today. The hanging shop lights are for effect and not lit. The lights are attached to the second story flooring. Last shot before the side wall gets installed.

Karl.A
September 2022 edited September 2022
Outstanding !
Such a shame to put that last wall on, but hopefully there will still be some good visibility of this mastery when the lights come on, especially with the large open front wall and opening on the side.
I’ve only seen one other (finished) build of this great kit with the actual rails inside as originally designed, so I’m really looking forward to seeing the trestle etc, exiting the structure, mine is still mostly in my minds eye, though 90% done.

sdrees
September 2022
these are some very fine details Ken

KKarns
September 2022 edited September 2022
Thanks Karl and nice hearing from you my friend! I wimped out on the lighting and don’t have the actual shop lights lit so it looks slightly odd when lit. Lights on but not from the obvious light sources! Lol. The 4 lights placed on the ceiling light up the interior nicely, they just aren’t coming from the shop lights. Oh well, least of my concerns at this phase of the build. You should dust off that piece and finish it up!

KKarns
September 2022
Appreciate that Stephen. Lighting is a bit cranky…see my response to Karl!

ALCO
September 2022
There must be several hundred (more?) pieces and parts in this last foto that you have meticulously and individually placed into this scene! Wonderfully done! Can’t wait to get into my shop to start my next SWSM kit.

KKarns
September 2022
Thanks much Al. Look forward to what’s next on your bench!

SteveF
September 2022
Ken, I’m just catching up with this build and your detailed interior is worth at least a month of studying. I have the interior details to start on with my tool shed but you have set the bar beyond Olympic height. This is the type of modeling I love. Thank you for all the inspiration.

KKarns
September 2022
Nice note here Steve, appreciate that. Lots more coming…

Jerry
September 2022
AWESOME!!! To say the least!!

Jerry

KKarns

September 2022
Thanks Jerry and nice hearing from you.

kebmo
September 2022
you, karl and brett should collaborate on a coffee table book. you could have sections for joel, robert, mike etc,

vietnamseabee
September 2022
Where do I place my order for this coffee table book???

kebmo
September 2022
vietnamseabee said:
Where do I place my order for this coffee table book???

great question

admin
September 2022
Soooooooo we’ll done. I guess my OCD is showing. I want to take a scrub brush and some bleach to that nasty old sink, hah!

KKarns
September 2022
Thanks Brett…that is such a nice detail to work with!

SteveF
September 2022
Quick question Ken. What material did you use for the rag on the sink? I tried using a thin piece of tissue paper last night for the rag in my scene but am not sure if that was the best to work with. Thanks.

TomMich
September 2022
Ken, that’s something you need to add to the scene, cleaning supplies for the sink!

CarlLaskey
September 2022
A mirror.

KKarns
September 2022
Hey Steve, thanks for the question. I like to use tissue paper as well, but there are two types I use. The first is the classic tissue paper you use on a runny nose, for the lack of a better way to describe it! But lately, I have been using the type of tissue paper you get from grandma’s ugly tie Christmas present. It needs to be the thin stuff. This paper takes paint really well and can fold to a good scale flatness or be wadded up and then flattened to give it some body and texture. It is also very durable and doesn’t fall apart when using water based paint on it like some classic tissues. Everyone has their favorite material so this is just what I use.

Tom/Carl, I thought about more “stuff” and a mirror but decided to move on as this wall will hardly show when it’s put in place, which I have thusly done! Sound wisdom though on the ideas…

CarlLaskey
September 2022
Radio.???

Karl.A
September 2022
Looks perfect the way it is, raw and utilitarian, like a sink in a workshop area should be.

KKarns
September 2022
Appreciate that Karl…I like your reasoning…you always have your “ear to the rail”

ALCO
September 2022
Sometimes less is more!

KKarns
September 2022 edited September 2022
Have made some good progress on Shelby’s main structure. The last remaining wall was glued in place. The sub-roof has been installed with some modifications as explained in the following:

Brett designed the roof of Shelbys utilizing approx. 2.0mm thick wood sheet. Tar paper was then to be added and once attached the ends of the tar were to be folded over the edges of the roof wood. The design was to not have rafter tails.

I decided to provide my model with the look of real rafter tails without completely outfitting the roof with real rafters as I did on the Bait & Tackle Shop. Shelby’s main is much larger and much more roof! The problem I was faced with was how to have the overhang, rafters, and sheathing of scale thickness utilizing the existing 2.0mm solid wood pieces (see photo #1.)

(photo #1) 2.0mm thick roof stock, way too thick for overhang and added rafter tails.

I placed the stock roof pieces on the roof and marked with a pencil, on the underside, the amount of originally designed overhang. I then cut that amount off the length of the stock roof piece. I then laid the roof piece top side down and butted a piece of scale 1 x 10 stripwood up against the edge of the roof piece and glued in all the rafter tails spaced a scale 24" (see photo #2 & #3). The roof piece, once glued on, would have just the modified portion showing as overhang. This creates the appearance of in scale rafter tails and sub roof.

(photo #2) Note the in scale thin roof sheathing over the rafter tails.

(photo #3) This in scale sheathing and rafter tails gave me the look I wanted and allows for putting in some damaged areas as the thin stripwood is easily modified to show this.

Illustrated below is the end result:

Note how this gives the illusion that the entire roof sheathing is a scale thickness.

Back side of Shelby’s. I added the gable vent for added visual interest.

ALCO
September 2022
I like the 1x10 strip wood idea. Seems like a more secure situation for rafter tails. And you can build it as one subassembly and then glue it to the roof edge.

brownbr
September 2022
Well that worked out

kebmo
September 2022
boy howdy!
[does this mean we have to do this on all roofs going forward?]

KKarns
September 2022
Yeah seemed to work OK

TomMich
September 2022
Nice solution. I’ve always thought roof overhangs were out of scale, and this is a creative solution. The eave treatment with boards is a nice feature as well.

KKarns
September 2022
Tom, the eave detail with the boards is the scribed wood roof pieces included in the kit.

Jerry
September 2022
There a guy over on the Modeler’s Forum that uses this as his signature! Bob Butts is his name goes by Reading Bob.

This might fit here Ken “There’s a fine line between Hobby and Mental Illness”.

In your case it’s a wonderful 17 pages of how to do it the right way!!

Jerry

KKarns
September 2022
Hey Thanks Jerry!..I think?..:slight_smile: I believe I met Bob at one of our counseling sessions!

vietnamseabee
September 2022
Ken…. I certainly enjoy following your “thinking outside the box”
Terry

Jeroen
September 2022
Sweet lord Ken. That looks fabulous. I really like what you did with the roof. It’s so nice to see this come together now. I for one can’t wait to see your next steps. There’s somehow always a little surprise to look forward to. Stellar job!

KKarns
September 2022 edited September 2022
Thanks Terry.

Nice hearing from you Jeroen. Appreciate your thoughts. I have various details to add to the exterior of the structure that will be much easier to do while it’s a stand alone and not attached to a diorama base. Have to build the side stair and landing assembly, cover the roof with tar paper and roof stacks, exterior plumbing, electrical service, a couple of windows, and some other minor things. A funny note…not sure the reason for outside door handles on a door that can only be opened and closed from the inside! That was my doing and think I’ll leave it just for conversation…ha.

Joel
September 2022
Ken I can’t stand it when the english language is inadequate to describe the superlative nature of something. And here we are… what fantastic detailing. That interior is stunning. This is likely your best work and THAT is saying something. So much to take in and enjoy. Thanks for sharing.

KKarns
September 2022
Hey Joel, so nice hearing from you as always! Hope all is well up north. I really appreciate your comments here and coming from you means a great deal my friend. Keep in touch…

EmeryJ
September 2022
Sorry Ken, my thesaurus ran out of descriptors. Have to start over with EXCELLENT!!

KKarns
September 2022
Hey I’ll take that Emery! Thanks much and nice hearing from you.

SteveF
September 2022
After too much time away from modeling, I just caught up with your thread. Others have already expressed the ingenuity and artistic detail you created with the overhang. I don’t think most of us could achieve in Fn3 what you create in HO. Thank you for the inspiration that you continue to provide all of this forum. I’m excited to see this build progress. Thanks Ken!

KKarns
September 2022
Hi Steve and nice hearing from you. I appreciate your take on the project and comments as yours are a great motivator to keep my nose to the bench!

KKarns
September 2022
Whilst waiting for glue to dry, thought I’d provide a quick addition to the rafter tail process I described and the detailing opportunities it provides. The thin to scale sheathing over the rafter tails allows for rot and damage detail to be added as desired. This serves to break up the roof line and gives added visual interest.

This type of damage is being done before the roof material is applied which provides a map for the roof material to follow.

Karl.A
September 2022
Very nicely done,
and good preplanning for a future feature.

brownbr
September 2022
The extra touches are always a treat.

KKarns
September 2022
Thanks Karl, it was a filler for more updates later. Stairway and railing work on Shelby’s main is taking a good bit of time.

Appreciate that Bryan. Not much of an update but its a slow modelers way of keeping things current!

SteveF
September 2022
That thin board really opens the door for realistic looking wood rot and will add even more realism to the weathered roof covering. If this is filler for more updates, keep it coming. I’m learning with every post.

KKarns
September 2022
Thanks for the note Steve. Following your work closely as well my friend!

Joel
September 2022
Love the rotting roof boards.

KKarns
September 2022
Thanks Joel. There will be a few more areas such as this as I work the roof details further.

kebmo
September 2022
you always nail the damage. it looks excellent (as usual)

KKarns
September 2022
Hey thanks so much Kevin and really appreciate you taking the time to comment! More later…

KKarns
October 2022
Seems like I’m always trying to dust off this thread! With less to do outside around the house should get some added bench time. Shelby’s main structure is coming along. The roof detail work is done and now working on the exterior details within the confines of the attached dock. The wonderful stairway and deck section affords some great detailing opportunities to add some interest. Will have some image updates in a few days as I button things up. The diorama base is not far away.

Typical condition of the Shelby’s project work area…yes, I know where everything is…I think!

Of note…I made this turn table from an old automotive brake drum. Gets the project up to a nice height and doesn’t easily get moved…other than to turn as designed!

Karl.A
October 2022 edited October 2022
Thanks for the update and great shots of the work area fully ‘populated’ showing us all where the Karns magic happens.

Great idea on the brake drum turntable, you know Emery is gonna steal that idea, that is right up his street, taste wise.

Looking froward to seeing the pictures of the stairway, one of my (many) favorite design aspects in this great kit.

KKarns
October 2022
You bet Karl…note the remains of “the incident” on the back wall right behind Shelby’s…literally launched an open bottle of AI which doused everything in its wake thus staining the wall and even got it up on the little shelves as well. Clean up was a b_____!

Yeah, I agree the stairway is such a great feature. Detailing it now and spent a fair amount of today working on and am only about half done…and that was with the structure part already built!

Right, the brake drum already has holes so its just a matter of attaching a turntable fixture to it and ready to go. Sturdy enough to put an engine block on to paint!

admin
October 2022
Hah! Even Ken’s turntable is grungy!

KKarns
October 2022
Hey…I have always been for go…not for show! I’ll put this beast up against any
“Lazy Susan” and just say…“Next!”…Hah.

TomMich
October 2022
Your workspace is so clean and organized! It makes me want to try to clean mine up. Nah! That would take too much time away from modeling.

KKarns
October 2022
You may have just caught me on a good day!

Robert.G
October 2022
So, that’s what a Sierra West workspace looks like :slight_smile: It sure produces some great dioramas..

KKarns
October 2022
Thanks Robert.

KKarns
October 2022
Shelby’s main structure is coming along. I have basically finished the roof details with just some final debris accumulation in various places to apply. I spent a good bit of time and effort on the stairway and second story porch detailing, with a number of SWSM 3D detail parts going into the works.

I added the “metal” fencing along the second story railing. I left off the lower horizontal bracing on the left side to allow future access from the deck of the Tool Shop. This is a brilliantly conceived and executed scene by Brett. So much character built into the one space. I had a ball working on this area. Note the two hanging lamps.

View from the front. Love the various roof lines afforded by this view. Again, Brett just has an uncanny way of adding delicious ZIP to a structure!

Love this shot showing the stairway and the inside of the shop area contrasting nicely. Critical here to have a different finish to the planking between the inside and outside to lend credibility to the scene. Also note how the paint peel that was put on after the wall was constructed to allow control of the peel to progressively get more significant towards the bottom.

I’m not going to lie…if there is anything i like better than old grungy tanks…its stacks. I scratch built this one and added the folded over corrugated rain shield. I think I’ll do a different type of rain shield on every build I do until I run out of new ones!

Back to Brett’s brilliant roof design…this is the tasty part I was referring to earlier! If that’s not a classy roof designed with the modeler in mind…I don’t know what is! I opted for a wood ridge cap and detailed the vents to look like galvanized hoods and bases. Decided on a metal roof for the porch for added contrast since the tar paper roof is proportionally large, and the Bait and Tackle Shop is also this type of standing seam roofing. I will also have a metal roof on the tool shop.

Have the tool shop and porch and back shed to do yet and then the hoist house, and all structures will be essentially done. Then on with the diorama base. More later…Ken

Jim M
October 2022
Wow Ken, this is fantastic. There are just no words to describe how good this is. Can’t believe this is an HO project. Great job.

Karl.A
October 2022
Looking good ken. The many different shots show the perspectives and quality.

ALCO
October 2022
It’s all great (as usual!). But the peeling paint really makes this one stand out! Glad to hear that there are still some structures to build. Gotta keep this going!

KKarns
October 2022
Hey Jim, nice hearing from you and appreciate your thoughts.

Thanks much Karl. Had a decent day outside photos with temps in the 70s here in Ohio. Took advantage to get the update posted.

Appreciate that Al. I was really happy with how the paint peel worked out and thanks for your thoughts on same. Right…planning out the Hoist Shed as the next structure project.

MuddyCreekRR
October 2022
Outstanding work here Ken…Love it…

Jeroen
October 2022
Wonderful. I really like the roofs and the way the peeling of the paint changes towards the bottom of the wall and the direction of that door. The eyecatcher of course is that staircase. All those details Ken, there’s so much to look at, it’s truely amazing. I’m by now very curious what you will do with the groundwork - structure, color, vegetation… given this is a waterfront scene I can imagine loads of opportunities here…

kebmo
October 2022
outstanding as always ken.

KKarns
October 2022
Appreciate that Art.

Thanks so much Jeroen! Really enjoyed working on the Shelby’s structures as both can be highly detailed while off the diorama base. However, that will be coming soon and haven’t got that all worked out yet. It will definitely be a water front scene, but not sure on the details as I want something a bit different maybe even fresh water…we’ll see.

Nice hearing from you Kevin and thanks.

Joel
October 2022
Just fantastic how all those little details pull together. What a fantastic structure.

KKarns
October 2022 edited October 2022
I agree with that Joel!..Such an iconic waterfront kit and signature structure.

KKarns
October 2022
I decided to go ahead and add some details to the North side of Shelby’s. One thing that I was concerned about was getting a waterfront feel to the diorama. Naturally the water will provide that and Brett has set the stage by including a boat under repair just outside the large opening shown here. I decided to model a diesel engine under the tarp and the prop from the boat in for repair.

TomMich
October 2022
awesome as usual! Would love to see more close ups of the details added to the porch area, especially the cabinet on the lower level. The details in the large opening are a nice touch and add to an otherwise bare opening. How about a work cart with some tools for the guy working on that engine?

randyp
October 2022
Ken a beautiful work of art. You have reached a level of detail and texture that we mere mortals can only hope to aspire to. Randy

KKarns
October 2022 edited October 2022
Thanks Tom. I’ll get some close ups this week. Work cart is a great idea. I did include an empty crate with a few tools, etc. on it beside the shop stool. I am going to be adding a small flat bed rail car…could have that parked on the track behind the engine with various tool boxes and such.

Appreciate that Randy, I spend way too much time waffling over things but that’s apparently how I model! Again, thanks for your kind response.

Karl.A
October 2022
Time very well spent !!

KKarns
October 2022
Ha…yeah you’re right oh wise one…I have never hurried through a SierraWest build and not about to start now!

admin
October 2022
Wonderful progress. Love the added 3D Printed details. shovel, hand truck, shop stove, etc… Love the motor covered by the tarp and the prop. So well conceived and executed.

EmeryJ
October 2022
Loving the details Ken. Great job on those.

KKarns
October 2022
Thanks much Brett. In just the details covering the stairs and second story porch, I added 48 3D detail parts! (see my follow-up post below).

Appreciate that Emery.

KKarns
October 2022
Hey Tom, you requested some close ups so this is what I came up with.

Karl.A
October 2022 edited October 2022
Outstanding Ken !!

The outside lighting really allows the quality of everything, the details and your modeling, to be seen clearly and appreciated.

KKarns
October 2022
Thanks much Karl. Right you are…it was just right this afternoon to get some pics outside.

Karl.A
October 2022
Well, lucky for us then.

The lighting shows so well all of those little ‘extras’ you added to so many of the details and mini areas, the details themselves and the thought that went into getting every arrangement, placement and angle of everything “just right”…
Not to mention the perfect finish on each and every item for the position it is in within the whole scene.

With that said, the incredible finish on the walls, stairway and decking bring this all together perfectly and the pictures show it off so very well.

brownbr
October 2022
Excellent work as always.

kebmo
October 2022
the only thing missing are the spider webs…

Jerry
October 2022
Ken your attention to detail is what really makes your modeling stand out!
Beautiful work!!

Jerry

TomMich
October 2022
Thanks for the close ups Ken! Wow! Awesome detailing! everything is colored, weathered, and placed so very well. My eye is especially drawn to the cabinet on the lower level. It reminds me of a fish cleaning station that is no longer used for that purpose. It is a very interesting and creative addition.

Robert.G
October 2022
It doesn’t get any better than this !!!

KKarns
October 2022
Hey Karl, thanks so much. It’s amazing how difficult it can be to purposely model scenes like these as you well know. I fiddle around and waffle about until I get started then I go fairly well getting it together. I really appreciate your incite…we need to talk about this stuff over a cold one!

Thanks Bryan and nice hearing from you.

Thanks Kevin…you O Scale folks could pull that off!

I’m a big fan of “it’s all in the details”. Appreciate your thoughts Jerry.

Thanks Tom. Dang!..I should have though of that and put it over on the Bait & Tackle Shop as just that. Thanks for suggesting the close ups…I got a bit lazy taking photos I guess.

I’ll take that Robert!..made my day.

Joel
October 2022
Just fantastic. So much for the eye to take in. Amazing peeling/crackle paint job. The detail work is outstanding and your scene composure is fantastic.

MuddyCreekRR
October 2022
Great composition of the scene…the colors and tones are perfect…

KKarns
October 2022
Thanks so much Joel. Nice hearing from you as always.

Appreciate that Art.

Dave_S
October 2022
Ken,
It always amazes me how a stair scene with great detail can become the focal point of a kit build. Yours is certainly a show stealer. The tables, work benches and assorted details make the scene look like an every day experience. Great modeling as always. Now where did I leave that hammer and wrench anyway?
Later, Dave S. Tucson, AZ

KKarns
October 2022
Hey Dave, nice hearing from you as always. Appreciate your thoughts here and Brett designed this area of the structure just for the modeler I think! So much character built into this small space.

KKarns
October 2022
As I had mentioned in my previous update, I did not put the horizontal rear brace on the second story porch vertical posts as I wanted to create an access to the Tool Shop loading dock. The following pictures illustrate this concept:

The stairs provide unobstructed access back and forth from the Tool Shop loading dock to the under stairway work area.

Tool Shop loading dock railing with the same metal fencing to tie in with the same concept on the second story porch. Standing seam roof here also ties in the roof of the second floor porch.

TomMich
October 2022
Nicely done! Time now to add all those wonderful details to the loading dock!

KKarns
October 2022
Tempting but think I’ll wait until the structure is planted on the diorama. Not much advantage detailing it now versus later on. Thanks much Tom.

Karl.A
October 2022
Looks great Ken, the access steps are a very nice addition to this area and tie things together perfectly.

KKarns
October 2022
Thanks Karl, and I think it does kind of unify this whole side of Shelby’s workflow.

sdrees
October 2022
All your details on the structue railings, stairs etc are great Ken.

KKarns
October 2022
Thanks much Stephen and nice hearing from you!

TomMich
October 2022
Ken, you have more patience than I!

KKarns
October 2022
Yeah I do drag it on that’s for sure. I’d go broke doing commission work!

KKarns
November 2022 edited November 2022
working on the walls of the shed on the back side of Shelby’s main structure. I decided to model the lower part of the walls with water stains and decay. I colored the walls the base color then with a mix of alcohol and chalk pigment applied the watery mix to the bottom board ends. I used white chalk first for the main color then followed with black where the white staining ended and used the white as a map for the black. Key is to keep it very subtile. I had to fiddle around as the initial process was too stark in contrast. I then wanted to model the boards at the bottom with a few warped and pulling away from the bottom sill as often is seen on old barns and sheds. I cut off a thin disk from a scale 4x4 and glued this small square disk to the backside of the board end. Once the piece of siding was glued down the little chuck caused the board to bow out a bit at the bottom.

Front wall of the shed with the weathered board ends.

Note the subtile board ends that are bowed out a bit. Better in the following picture:

Jim M
November 2022
Beautiful job. Having lived in a home which had a 130 year old barn, I’m familiar with what you are going for. You nailed it.

TomMich
November 2022
Nice weathering! The same warped board concept could be applied to where 2 boards are joined together on the wall. That might show up a little more as sometimes scenery and details would hide the base of the wall. The stains and decay really show up well on your wall. As always you take the grunge effect to the next level!

randyp
November 2022
Ken, your staining to show the rotting ends of boards is beautiful. The bowed out board ends are a work of art. Randy

Karl.A
November 2022
Great wood detail work, both the water damage and bowing are excellent additions to the walls.

KKarns
November 2022
Hey thanks Jim. Nice to have a first hand account of how they stack up to the real thing!

Thanks Tom and nice idea. I’ll give that a go and see how it looks, so thanks for the steer.

Appreciate that Randy. Always enjoy trying new things, albeit a small detail.

Thanks Karl, something different to add some interest.

brownbr
November 2022
Nice effect.

KKarns
November 2022
Thanks Bryan…something different to fiddle with!

MuddyCreekRR
November 2022 edited November 2022
I really like the effect of the toning on the lower parts of the boards…I tried something similar weathering and also added in a bit of subtle green to show moisture causing some moss or algae…some liked it…others not so much…but you are right…it can either make you see it without “seeing” it…that hint…or it jumps right out at you…You pulled it off…as usual

KKarns
November 2022
Thanks much Art. I like the subtile greenish tone and may try a bit once the shed is attached, good call!

MuddyCreekRR
November 2022
My biggest problem is orientation of the structures on the layout…the “greening” should only be on the north and northeast of the structure…I have to watch how I plant my structures on the layout…

KKarns
November 2022
Use your compass man…north is…that way!..lol.

MuddyCreekRR
November 2022
For my layout…north…is the door that leads to the shop…lol

KKarns
November 2022 edited November 2022
The final structural detail for Shelby’s main building is the rear shed. I have the three walls done and the roof is in progress. I have the main structure sitting on a wood sill plate as seen in the photo below.

Note the sill plate is a thick timber scaled with a 6x6 piece of stripwood along the entire perimeter of the building.

As such, I wanted the shed foundation to be level with this wood sill. I decided to use brick as the foundation for the shed. This adds variety and visual interest. I also added the wood shutter over a window opening. The roof will be corrugated metal for variety as standing seam, which the other porch roofs are made of, might not look all that good on such a small roof. More later…

Brick foundation and wood shutter. Hinges are a bit out of scale but looks fine without magnification.

EmeryJ
November 2022
Ken, it truly is a pleasure to see what you come up with next. Every time I tell myself “he can’t top that one”, you do it again. Man that is outstanding!!

KKarns
November 2022
Thanks much my friend! made my day.

admin
November 2022
Wow, amazing. Always elevating the hobby my friend.

KKarns
November 2022
Appreciate that Brett. Shelby’s is such a great kit, having a ball!

MuddyCreekRR
November 2022
Are the electric meters manufactured or scratch

KKarns
November 2022
Hey Art…sent you a PM.

brownbr
November 2022
Does the dial on the meter spin?

ALCO
November 2022
The main building is nasty (nice electrical, paint job is pretty nice too!). The shed is killer. Fantastic work.

TomMich
November 2022 edited November 2022
Exceptional as always! A pleasure to follow your builds. They always inspire.

KKarns
November 2022
You bet Bryan.

Thanks so much Al. Nasty?..really appreciate that and just what I was after!

KKarns
November 2022
Glad to hear Tom and appreciate your thoughts.

KKarns
November 2022
I have attached the rear shed to the main structure, added the corrugated roof and a few small details. This completes the initial work on Shelby’s main building. Fleshing out the diorama base and overall schematic of the work flow is next up.

KKarns
November 2022

Jim M
November 2022
Wow Ken, really fantastic.

KKarns
November 2022
Appreciate that Jim!

Jeroen
November 2022
The main problem with your work is that you just can’t keep it sane. Now look at this. So much realism in literally every spot imaginable. I really would love to spend an afternoon in your mancave just to get a glimpse of how you achieve all this eyecandy. Spectacular is an understatement!

KKarns
November 2022
Well thanks so much Jeroen, such a nice note. I’ll have the coffee on and a cold one in the fridge, no need to knock just come on in!

Karl.A
November 2022
Terrific as always Ken, your wood treatment is at the top of the class and I really like the effect you did on the corrugated.

KKarns
November 2022
Thanks much Karl, and coming from you that means a great deal.

brownbr
November 2022
Neat wall hook. Is that a brick foundation on the addition?

KKarns
November 2022
Right Bryan, I put the main building on a wood sill and it will have a stone foundation showing here and there. For variety, I put the shed on a brick foundation and added a wood floor, which of course can hardly be seen inside the slightly open door.

Jerry
November 2022
Your usual outstanding job on wood! I like the little stone foundation. Just enough to change the look of everything.

Jerry

KKarns
November 2022
Hey Jerry, thanks much and really made my day when I read your take on the stone foundation. Exactly why I added that detail. Of course it will look loads better once on the diorama and dirt, weeds, etc. soften the hard lines.

EmeryJ
November 2022
I swear I can smell the old oil and stanisol.

KKarns
November 2022
Lol…that works!

ALCO
November 2022
It’s so easy to look at your work and immediately be transported to another time and place! Another masterpiece in the making.

KKarns
November 2022
Thanks Al. Don’t know about that!

KKarns
November 2022
The main structure, as I mentioned, is basically finished. The following is just a quick “walk around” the building to document it before moving on to the hoist house and diorama base.

TomMich
November 2022
Gr4eat addition to the build!

KKarns
November 2022
Thanks Tom, nice to have this one wrapped up. Looking forward to putting the diorama together.

Karl.A
November 2022
Outstanding craftsmanship, throughout.

Jim M
November 2022
I’m glad you get to show this here but this should be in a museum somewhere. Incredible modeling

brownbr
November 2022
Excellent work. Looking at the whole thing, I keep thinking that some advertising signs might look right at home.

KKarns
November 2022
Thanks Karl.

Too kind Jim. Appreciate ya!

You’re right Bryan. I tend to neglect that aspect and should do more. I’ll wait until the diorama is somewhat set and look hard at signage. Thanks for the steer.

kebmo
November 2022
remind me not to store anything in that shed…
what’s the deal with the electric meter? casting or scratch? it looks great. what did you use for the conduit?

admin
November 2022
working on 3D Printing a grouping of electrical parts… stay tuned.

Jeroen
November 2022
Just breathtaking. I just don’t stop discovering little new things all the time. Its like opening a box of surprises. Great!

KKarns
November 2022
Come on Kev, its just the one corner! See Brett’s post re:electrical .

Terrific!..I’ve been limping along doing electrical detail work and a SWSM 3D print of this stuff will blow anything out there away…and that’s before I even see it!

Thanks Jeroen, appreciate your thoughts.

Joel
November 2022
Just fantastic work. It’s one thing to plan things so meticulously but to bring them into being with such brilliance is humbling. Amazing.

KKarns
November 2022
Hey Joel, thanks so much. You my friend are what is referred to as a “modelers modeler”…you get the end game and understand and appreciate the planning and thought process, coupled with the serious enthusiasm, that most of us have for this great hobby. Appreciate ya man!

kebmo
November 2022 edited November 2022
KKarns said:
Come on Kev, its just the one corner! See Brett’s post re:electrical .

Terrific!..I’ve been limping along doing electrical detail work and a SWSM 3D print of this stuff will blow anything out there away…and that’s before I even see it!

Thanks Jeroen, appreciate your thoughts.

ken,
where is brett’s post about electrical? i’d like to see it.

never mind, i saw it. can’t wait.

kebmo
November 2022
and by the way ken, to me this ranks right up there with your best modeling, and that’s saying alot.
this should be an o scale kit damnit! (never mind. i’d need a bigger house)

KKarns
November 2022
Me too!..everything else Brett has 3D printed has been a game changer with respects to detailing so the electrical details will be no different…what a great time to be modeling!

Jerry
November 2022
Looking for the next post…

Jerry

KKarns
November 2022
Hey Jerry, gettin close…have just about finished up the hoist house which is the last structure before everything gets planted on the diorama base. The hoist shack is small but lots of character.

KKarns
November 2022 edited November 2022
I have completed the last structure, the hoist house, for the Shelby’s build. The next step will be to figure out the diorama base and the arrangement of the three buildings and the ultimate work flow.

The Hoist House (HH) must reside in a specific spot that allows the cable hoist to pull watercraft out of the water and into dry dock for various repairs. The kit calls for the HH to sit on a wonderfully detailed resin brick, concrete and wood foundation with the hoist, not included in the kit, located inside the hoist house. Brett mentions in the manual that he originally had the HH as an open shed, but did not like the final look, so designed the structure closed with windows and door. I decided to do a combination of the two…A closed HH with the original designed door and windows and and open area where I would provide an actual 2 drum hoist. This arrangement would provide a great deal of detail modeling opportunities and visual interest.

I wanted to keep the wonderful resin foundation casting and came up with a two level configuration scheme. This required I cut down the size of the HH to allow over half the resin foundation to be visible, particularly the wonderfully conceived exposed brick under the missing and weathered concrete. As such, the HH looked almost square. So, to give it some additional length and volume, I added a covered open shed area in back and a roof over the front door. Also, placing the windows a bit off center of an almost square structure gives the impression of length. The resin foundation would be at ground level and the HH would be up on a stone foundation that I would construct. The 2 drum hoist would then be placed on the lower level concrete and brick pad fully visible and the HH would be the maintenance facility. Electrical service to the HH would come in from the line service in the rear and then to the hoist unit in front via underground electric line. The resin ground level foundation would require a cut out in the foam diorama base. I utilized a scrap piece of foam to trial this application and may actually use the entire piece and just splice the foam square into my dio base. This is illustrated below.

All this for a 3" x 1.5" scene! We do what we do cause we love what we do. That’s my excuse and I’m sticking with it!

This is the Hoist House I came up with. I added several details to add visual interest to an otherwise small squarish structure. Stone foundation made from individual plaster stones, scratch built roof with rafters to allow natural looking rot and damage, wood roof cap with additional “metal cap” over that, stove pipe was made from an original SWSM straight resin casting heated with flame and then bent to form the right angle with simulated flex stove pipe at the angle by carving it in with a #11blade, wood floor just visible inside the cracked open door, rear covered area and electrical service connection (viewable in subsequent images). Also, the horizontal break in the siding at the start of the peak was done to break up the long height of the front and rear walls. This was done simply by adding a piece of stripwood to the framing before putting on the vertical siding.

Another shot taken indoors with a bit more saturated color and some scale. Went with an off yellow peeling paint effect using Pale Buckskin 00121 from the SWSM Reaper Paint Set.

Rear view showing the covered area. I made the incoming electrical service connection. Frame is from stripwood and the insulator is from carved styrene rod.

Here is the resin foundation supplied with the kit. This entire piece was installed level with the future ground level. The stone steps I added and are just staged at this point.

This is how the HH will sit on the base. The 2 drum hoist will be in the far upper right portion of the concrete slab. There will be a light pole just off the edge to provide area lighting and will have the electrical on/off junction box for the electric hoist mounted on it. More later…Ken

randyp
November 2022
Ken, such detail in a small space. The siding break adds a lot to the front and back walls. The bent stove pipe, the insulator, the porch, and shed all add to make this tiney building an eye catcher. Great Job, Randy

MuddyCreekRR
November 2022
I really like the looks of that…nice job…

KKarns
November 2022
Hey thanks much Randy.

Appreciate that Art.

TomMich
November 2022
Nice little structure. Lots of interesting details.

Karl.A
November 2022
Great work on that structure Ken, the finish on the walls and roof’s is outstanding.

kebmo
November 2022
Karl.A said:
Great work on that structure Ken, the finish on the walls and roof’s is outstanding.

boy howdy!

Joel
November 2022
Ken, amazing little structure. Flawless execution. Shows us all how even a tiny shed can be a work of art.

brownbr
November 2022
Cool little structure

admin
November 2022
Wow, what an awesome little structure. Weathering and grunge is perfect.

Looking forward to seeing this placed and functioning.

EmeryJ
November 2022
Incredible Ken, just incredible!

KKarns
November 2022
It is little Tom!

Thanks much Karl.

Thanks for the support Kevin.

Appreciate your thoughts Joel!

Thanks Bryan

Thanks Brett and working on placement of things now so coming along.

Well thanks so much Emery!

Jeroen
November 2022
Bloody h€&ll… that is just gorgeous! Superb Ken!

KKarns
November 2022
Lol!! Cracked me up…appreciate that Jeroen. Also, appreciate our contributions to the forum…having fun aren’t we…

Jim M
November 2022
This is fantastic. So easy to lose track of how small this structure is. Are you sure this isn’t a real building that you photoshop shrunk? Incredible modeling .

KKarns
November 2022
Nice hearing from you Jim, and appreciate the note. It certainly is a small building and that’s some of the motivation to add the many little details to give it some umpf!

Jerry
November 2022
Excellent work in such a small piece!

Jerry

KKarns
November 2022
Thanks Jerry!

KKarns
December 2022 edited December 2022
Not a great deal of photo and discussion worthy material for this Shelby’s update. However, it is labor intensive both mentally (planning this all out with two buildings being lit on the interior, the water feature, the land mass and structure placement, and the general work flow plan) and physically (basic materials construction) with work on the diorama base proceeding as planned.

Shelby’s diorama base as of today. Those familiar with Shelby’s will notice a few odd features compared to the traditional build of this kit. The most impactful thing that I decided to add was a land feature opposite Shelby’s main structure. I wanted the track leading into the main structure to have the look as if coming from somewhere, rather than just ending a few inches outside the large open door over the water. The foam in the foreground of the image is this land feature. Other features and their relevance with become apparent as the work progresses. Note the pile of plaster rock castings ready to be integrated. More later…Ken

Jerry
December 2022
It’s all in the details! And we know how much you like to make those details come to life!!

Jerry

KKarns
December 2022
Thanks Jerry and we’ll see how it goes!

Jeroen
December 2022
I really like this part as it’s not often shown. I’m very curious and interested in how you’re going to give this a go so I hope you’ll keep this step by step going Ken. Any ideas yet on how you’re going to do the water?

kebmo
December 2022
Any ideas yet on how you’re going to do the water?

yeah. i’ll be keeping a close eye on this…

Karl.A
December 2022
Now this is going to be very interesting to watch (when isnt Ken). A great start, I’m also looking forward to seeing the boat ramp on piers, thats cool !

tip, glue some straws in those holes for the lighting wires, the wires will slide through easier and not snag.

Cant wait for the next update.

brownbr
December 2022
Very nice. Looking forward to how you do the water. I’m planning a waterfront myself in a future build so happy to see how you tackle this.

The extra piece of land is very interesting. Worthy of a name with an accompanying sign. Something like: Mutt’s Jut. Grunge Aye Land. Spot’s Spit. Finger’s Point.

TomMich
December 2022
Looking forward to what creative things you have up your sleeve for this one!

MuddyCreekRR
December 2022 edited December 2022
I have in my mind a O scale version of this for my waterfront…along with a few piers…docks…and a lighthouse…I absolutely love this little shack…I may need to build one like it…

KKarns
December 2022
Hey Jeroen, nice hearing from you. Appreciate your thoughts on updating through this part of the build. Wasn’t going to post much at this point but maybe I will particularly the water. I have a plan in mind for the water.

Right Kevin…me too!..This will be my first go at modeling a significant body of water.

I knew you’d get it Karl! I wanted to achieve a more gentle angle on the rail ramp for the boat winch set up. So decided on a ramp affair to make the angle more manageable. It will also add some visual interest…and a lot of work for me, but in the end I think it will look OK. Thanks for the steer on the lighting as I have had that problem before with those ultra thin wires for the lights.

Right Bryan, the extra land area will give the diorama a whole different look. I like the idea of naming it…hmmm.

It’s working out so far Tom. Next big thing is the shoreline rock formation placement. Haven’t done much of that either!

Sounds good Art. The lighthouse is a nifty detail and look forward to seeing that come together for you. I like the little guy also…thanks for mentioning it.

KKarns
December 2022
Working on getting many of the misc. diorama details with tide marks. not done but the basic work is laid down. water will be about 1/4 inch deep so some of the tide mark width will be less than seen here.

Metal sea wall made from raised rib metal roof material with large styrene “T” metal pieces as supports.

Resin stone wall is included in the kit. The height of my base required that I add on about the lower 1/3 of the wall with plaster and then I carved in matching sone detail.

Boat haul ramp scratch built from strip wood and NBWs.

The trestle didn’t want to photograph very well, but you get the idea. Taking the rail across the water to the adjacent land form required I add two additional bents and a couple inches of decking.

TomMich
December 2022
Very nice! May I make a suggestion? Oh well I’m going to anyway. If your trestle is in salt water there will be a white residue at and a little above the water line. I did a search a while back when I built the Foss Oyster Co. I found interesting photos that had this white residue. It added quite a bit of interest in my opinion. If this is in fresh water I don’t think there will be any residue. Just a thought.

KKarns
December 2022
Thanks Tom. You, my friend, are exactly right! The evaporated sea water leaves salt residue. The reason you don’t see that is I want to wait until all the details are in place and I can accurately measure where my hide tide mark is going to be and I will then blend in a residue line. Depending on where that falls I may have to add more of the dark layer and the green. The photo below is what I’m using after searching a bunch of images.

I was toying with the idea of making it fresh water. Decided against it as the Waterfront will be fresh water and the Bait & Tackle shop just beg salt water!

brownbr
December 2022
Coming along great.

Karl.A
December 2022
Love that pic of the salt deposits/bleaching, salt makes everything so crusty and rusty and… beautiful.
Great work Ken so far and all based on great research.
Looking forward to more.

TomMich
December 2022
Nice research pic. That’s the look I was referring to. I figured you had thought it through but wanted to make the suggestion before you installed the timbers as it is easier to do weathering before installation.

KKarns
December 2022 edited December 2022
Really appreciate the note Tom…that’s what this forum is all about. If all we do is gush over everyone’s work, regardless, this helps no one. I’m thrilled you called me out on that! I think I miss calculated on how high the tide marks will be. If I add 1/4 inch of water it doesn’t leave as much markings above the water as I think would look good. Will study on that thing, it’s been praying on my mind!lol.

Jerry
December 2022
Ken you’re making this so realistic. I wouldn’t be surprised if God didn’t ask you for some tips on landscaping!!

Jerry

KKarns
December 2022
lol…I think he’s busy trying to fix this world we live in! Thanks much for your thoughts and we’ll see how things get along.

Dave_S
December 2022 edited December 2022
Ken,
I am really enjoying your build of this kit. I reminds me of a trip to Bar Harbor in 1968. Great work. That low tide photo you included is really inspirational, One can almost smell he salt air.
Later, Dave S. Tucson, AZ

KKarns
December 2022
Thanks Dave. Being my first waterfront diorama I feel a bit like “a fish out of water”…ha. I was a bit concerned that I wouldn’t get that maritime feel to things so appreciate your take thus far.

EmeryJ
December 2022
I think you have captured the look perfectly on those pilings. Keep on sharing Ken!!

KKarns
December 2022
Hey Thanks Emery, appreciate the moral support!

Jeroen
December 2022
I think by now you know how I value your work Ken. There are few people who have the skill to turn it all in a super realistic scale model and you are one of them. That dock is incredibly impressive and the salt water residue a wonderful idea. Wha I like about your reference pic is also the little things that you see in the water. Small pieces of wood sticking out, rather at random, probably from an old structure or broken off. It’s something you often see in places like this. That would fit right in what you’re building. Awesome work!

KKarns
December 2022
Really appreciate your thoughts here Jeroen. Reference photos are invaluable when coming up with scene development. I spend as much time mulling over things as I do modeling them! Many pilings to go so lots of opportunities for some interesting details…

Karl.A
December 2022
Great workflow Ken, I cant wait to see what masterful gems and scenes you create after your ‘mulling’.

KKarns
December 2022
Appreciate that Karl, and time will tell!

KKarns
December 2022 edited December 2022
Update on Shelby’s diorama work. Based on the prototype picture previous, I worked up a sample 3 piling group. The metal bands on the tops of the pilings were originally done with styrene strip. These proved too thick so I settled on paper. I decided that rather than rope binding I would use simulated wire cable. This was done with black ship rigging thread. Ship rigging thread is an improvement over plain thread as you don’t get the little fraying fuzzies that sometimes show up with standard thread. I will do a bit more rust effects on the cables and some other little finishing details but wanted to get a trial sample done to see where I’m going.

I decided to make the rowboat dock, located under the Bait & Tackle Shop, a floating dock to account for the change in tide level. I used SWSM 3D printed barrels to provide the floats. Careful placement on the resin “water” will be needed so they don’t sink in. Leveling sticks may be used underneath to ensure this!

I will likely add some securing cable to the barrels that attach the barrels to the dock and some other details.

The basic landforms have been done with some pre-planning required. The shoreline in some areas represent deep water and other areas more shallow. The land should convey this in the diorama to give that illusion…ie steep bank at the shore suggests deep water.

My landform was done with a combination of plaster rock molds I made and Sculptamold. The Sculptamold fills in areas around the plaster rocks and can be carved as desired. This particular area is steep, falling off to deep water.

By contrast, this area has a more gentle slope to the water and a more shallow area.

This is the area beside and below the Bait & Tackle shop. Steep rocky bank indicating deep water with a man made sloping area in the middle for stair access to the rowboat dock. Folks will be fishing off the pier above so needed to represent deep water around the pier.

Overall view of the landforms. Quite a bit more to do…

Joel
December 2022
Looks fantastic

admin
December 2022
Love seeing this stage of Shelby’s come to life under your detail oriented eyeballs. Pilings look perfect and the floating dock was a great mod!

KKarns
December 2022
I don’t know Joel, kind of ugly at this stage! Thanks for the support.

Thanks much Brett. So many detail opportunities with this build, what an accomplishment on this kit design!

Jerry
December 2022
A mighty fine job on the pilings! And you can picture how the shore line will look.

Jerry

AlexR
December 2022 edited December 2022
Ken,

This is really cool. Amazing how you’re able to get that detail with such small parts! I’m interested to see how you color the plaster and the water pour.

brownbr
December 2022
Shoreline coming along nicely

KKarns
December 2022
Thanks Jerry, and many more pilings to go.

Appreciate that Alex. Those two things will make or break this thing that’s for sure!

Slow but sure, thanks Bryan.

MuddyCreekRR
December 2022
Great progress on this…I see this coming together in your typical fashion as Brett has stated. You have a great eye for detail and you inspire and influence a lot of us on the forum…Looking Great!

KKarns
December 2022
If that’s the case Art, I am in modeling heaven! Nothing more satisfying than the thought of inspiring other modelers to get to the bench…thanks much for the note.

KKarns
December 2022 edited December 2022
Worked up another group of pilings. Went for a slightly different securing method taken from reference pictures for additional interest. Added the various levels of tide marks also from reference photos. The NBWs here seem a bit big and may pop them off and go one size smaller. This is only apparent in the close up pics so may not mess with it.

upper securing bands made from paper. Pigments for the tide marks from reference photos. These pilings were made from scale 12x12 square stripwood.

KKarns
December 2022
I updated with a closer view.

Jim M
December 2022 edited December 2022
Looks great. I was wondering if baking soda dissolved in water wouldn’t work for the tide line too. When dry it might leave a white residue; just a thought. I love the strapping on top. The nbw does look a bit oversized but not too bad. This is going to look so great when installed, great job.

kebmo
December 2022
i agree. i think it looks outstanding.

TomMich
December 2022
GREAT work on those pilings! Like how they are warped towards the top and bend in different directions, and the banding really turned out nice. The water line weathering is also very nice.

KKarns
December 2022
Thanks much Jim. The baking soda works fine however, the rest of the coloring is done with pigments so it’s just easier to do all the steps with pigments.

Appreciate that Kevin.

MuddyCreekRR
December 2022
Love it…I think the NBW’s look ok…if you have smaller…they might “disappear” into the scene different…Going to school on this as I have a waterfront planned (if I ever get that far)

KKarns
December 2022
Thanks Art. I think you’re right. The NBWs look fine once placed on the diorama. Hopefully when I get to the water its not shown as an example of what not to do!

mikemettelka
December 2022
Ken, you always raise the bar with everything you do!

randyp
December 2022
Great job with both the pilings and the land form. Randy

MuddyCreekRR
December 2022
I’m not a fan of doing water…I always hate trying to do it…I’ve used the foam board painted coated with gloss medium…working in ripples with a hair dryer and the gels to add some “waves” or current…I always mess up the poured water stuff…Good Luck with yours…

brownbr
December 2022
I like how the 3rd from left looks like a pile driver put it in place.

admin
December 2022
Wonderful, love the piling group.

KKarns
December 2022
Hey thanks Mike. I post these small details now and again, as once everything is together they get a bit lost in the overall scheme of things…and…I model slow, so it helps to keep the thread going!

Thanks Randy and appreciate the note.

Right Art, I’m looking forward to it in most respects coupled with a bit of apprehension! I have researched the process and have secured my products. I’ll be doing two pours at 1/8 of an inch each, then add the surface detail. Might be a good time to try and do a video of the event?

Really appreciate your critique Bryan as you always have an eye for the fine details. It is so enjoyable to work up these type of details and someone takes the time to comment, thanks my friend! Funny thing with that. If you notice that one and the one on the far right, I placed the pilings on a hard surface and tapped the tops with a hammer to simulate just what you mentioned, the mushroomed tops as if they were driven in by a pile driver. Both started to break near the middle as you can see, both are bent, which does give a nice effect but that’s why I didn’t do it to all of them. The longer the piling the worse this problem is, physics of course. May try carefully clamping them in a smooth jawed vise and tap the ends…I’ll come up with something as I do like the look.

Thanks much Brett. Have since re-done the NBWs to a smaller size…much better.

ALCO
December 2022
Do I have this right? You took square strip wood, made it round, and added knots?! You are really giving to the cause of craftsmanship!

KKarns
December 2022 edited December 2022
Yeah well…stupid is as stupid does! The kit includes doweling for this purpose, but I thought I might run out, and I wanted to have a couple different sizes for added visual interest and had only square stripwood! In fact, I just got back from a run to Hobby Lobby and picked up some even larger dowels (not square this time!), a good stock of popsicle sticks, and some balsa veneer for the diorama sides…first time sprucing up a diorama in this manner (see results below)…I think Bryan shamed me into sprucing up the sides of my dioramas!

KKarns
December 2022 edited December 2022
As I mentioned, I re-worked the piling grouping with smaller NBWs and while I was at it, modeled on that was bent and pulled out a bit.

randyp
December 2022
Ken your attention to detail is such a joy to observe. Your modeling is an inspiration to us all. Thanks for your modeling. Randy

MuddyCreekRR
December 2022
As always…Looks realer…than real…

KKarns
December 2022
Appreciate ya Randy and thanks much.

Thanks Art, guess that’s the end game and as long as it stays fun!

brownbr
December 2022
I’m sure the dressing will look fantastic.

EmeryJ
December 2022
Those look really great Ken. Love the “slipped” band and weathering from where it came.

MuddyCreekRR
December 2022
I like the tops where they flare out a bit…evidence they were driven in with a pile driver…I live on the ocean and these are a common site…they look dead on perfect

KKarns
December 2022
Great feed-back Art, appreciate it. The rest of the pilings are in and I did more of just what you’re talking about…just more carefully so as not to break em!

MuddyCreekRR
December 2022
wish I had a photo of the wall near me by the breakwater…moer than a 1/4 had some kind of split…once that are 1/2 into the sand…they ain’t coming back out. I’ve also see 2 pilings set ifo a damaged one too…and the heights are never the same

Jerry
December 2022
A mighty fine job on the pilings! And you can picture how the shore line will look.

Jerry

KKarns
December 2022
Right Art, the reference picture I’m patterning has the steel bands to the tops to help manage the tendency for them to split. Should have made the one I did with the broken band split! Many more opportunities to do that!

Thanks Jerry. That little section is my prototype for the remainder of the pilings.

MuddyCreekRR
December 2022
I have the boat out of the water already…otherwise I’d get you a photo of the ones near me…they are almost 25 years in the water and are due to come out…I have a photo of our fireboat ifo some…but I cant find it right now…but you have the right look for sure…Now I want to do some…but I need to focus on the Water Tank…

KKarns
December 2022
Would love to see them. They are a nice change of pace and fun to do. Good thing as there are quite a few!

Karl.A
December 2022
Outstanding Ken, you’re ability to see the small, real life details and then replicate them sets your modeling apart.

kebmo
December 2022
Karl.A said:
Outstanding Ken, you’re ability to see the small, real life details and then replicate them sets your modeling apart.

that’s for sure. there are several modelers on this forum that have that skill, and i am in awe of all of them. that’s why i practically live here.

KKarns
December 2022
Thanks so much Karl. Many firsts with this project.

Appreciate that Kevin and what a great time and place to be modeling!

KKarns
December 2022
Have the basic landforms done with final scenic work and detailing on them coming later. Have the base water color done and should give a good base for the water pour. Much more to do…

randyp
December 2022
It looks very good Ken. I can’t wait to see it all comes together, with the water, scenery, and especially your beautiful buildings. Looks natural. Randy

brownbr
December 2022
Impressive!

How deep of a pour do you anticipate?

kebmo
December 2022
comig along great. anxious to see it take form.

KKarns
December 2022
Thanks Randy.

Appreciate that Bryan and I plan on two pours of 1/8 inch each.

Thanks Kevin.

brownbr
December 2022
You’ll probably need to brush up on your calculus to calculate the volume needed for 1/8" pour.

admin
December 2022
wonderful base. cannot wait to see it all come together!

Joel
December 2022
Looks fantastic. The colouring is spot on rocks and piling look great. May need about 400 seagulls to populate.

KKarns
December 2022
There in lies the problem Bryan! Thanks so much for bringing it up! lol. It cost $46.74 for 375 ml. of final product volume. My gross estimate is I’ll need 316 ml per pour…maybe…

Hey thanks Brett. Fun getting to this stage in the project.

Thanks Joel. I plan to tone down the vibrant color with the water which I’ll tint a brownish green. Haven’t modeled anything warm blooded in my dioramas other than Homo sapiens!..we’ll see.

TomMich
December 2022
Great job on the land forms. Really turned out nice! The water color looks good and the pilings really add a lot to the scene.

KKarns
December 2022
Thanks Tom, appreciate it.

mikemettelka
December 2022
Ken, your work is always an inspiration.

KKarns
December 2022
Glad to hear that Mike and thanks. Happy Holidays.

MuddyCreekRR
December 2022
Looking good…water color is spot on…

Jeroen
December 2022
Oh my… awesome work Ken. It’s such a joy to see this all come together now. I’m very curious how the water will turn out. I’m starting with the groundwork of my wood logging thingy soon and although it’s completely different your work is again so inspiring!

KKarns
December 2022
Hey Jeroen, nice hearing from you my friend. Appreciate your thoughts here and no one is more curious than me as to how this “water thing” will turn out!

Jerry
December 2022
If that’s the basics! I can’t wait to see the next steps to this wonderful diorama!

Jerry

KKarns
December 2022
Well thanks Jerry. So much more to do and the water pour is dead last. It is nice getting it to the stage as the end game is more evident in my mind.

MuddyCreekRR
December 2022
Ken..what kind of water do you use…(brand not important)…I try to stay with a clear brush on gloss material over the wet pour…

KKarns
December 2022
I’ll be pouring a two part clear resin tinted with a few drops of paint in two pours of about 1/8 inch each. I’ll detail the surface with a transparent acrylic gel to get the appearance of moving water.

Jeroen
December 2022
I’m familiar with this approach Ken, I used it myself a number of times on dioramas. The effects can be awesome. You will probably be using acrylic paint to tint the water. Be very modest with the paint because it will blur the resin very quickly up to a point that you can’t see the basecolor that you have painted now. I’m sure you will run some tests first and perhaps there’s no need to be mentioning this but hey…

KKarns
December 2022
No, glad you put emphasis on this as I knew that you can quickly get into trouble with too much paint and there’s no going back! I’ll go very light as the top acrylic water effects gel will put wave texture which also will obscure the base color a bit as well.

MuddyCreekRR
December 2022
They also make green, blue and brown india inks that are clear…and don’t muddle the clear epoxy…available at the Lobby

Dave_S
December 2022
Ken,
i really like the setting you have created for Shelby’s. The discussion so far about your water resin pour has been very informative. I am anxiously anticipating your next steps and further instructive comments.
Later, Dave S.

KKarns
December 2022
Thanks Dave and really nice hearing from you. The main trouble areas with the two part pour is dealing with bubbles and the inevitable creep of the resin. Putting down a final texture layer for the wave action helps hide this quite a bit. Nothing is for sure but that makes it exciting!

brownbr
December 2022
It’s playing with fire, literally. A small butane torch waved over the top of the resin right after the pour will pop the bubbles. Worked great when I finished a table for the bar. Would take guts to do it around a model.

EmeryJ
December 2022
Ken, that water layout is AMAZING!!! Holy crap.

CarlLaskey
December 2022
Hair Dryer.

EmeryJ
December 2022
Ken, I used a creme brulee torch. They are compact, easy to manipulate, and very cheap on Amazon. They have a smaller flame, so less chance of really cremating something!

KKarns
December 2022
Right , many methods for the bubbles even blowing through a straw works. It’s more getting the last bubbles before you can’t anymore particularly on a larger area with lots of stuff in the water. Appreciate the suggestions.

Hey Thanks Emery.

brownbr
December 2022
That’s what I used Emery. Just didn’t know what it was called.

EmeryJ
December 2022
LOL… they are also automotive soldering torches, but creme brulee just sounded so much more sophisticated.

KKarns
December 2022
If I get one what should I wear when I’m using it? lol.

EmeryJ
December 2022
Bib overalls under a french maid skirt and a greasy ball cap should cover all the bases.

Karl.A
December 2022
I was going to say pearls, they’re always sophisticated, understated and give a little ‘ooh la la’

Great prepwork on the water base and the base layer scenery, what a great foundation for the next steps. This is going to be fantastic.

MuddyCreekRR
December 2022
Bic makes those long BBQ lighters…decant flame…controlable…less chance of seeing your local firefighters

Karl.A
December 2022
Yeah, that’s what I used to use too Art.

KKarns
December 2022 edited December 2022
Ha…I can do that Emery, and pearls work…as I am doing a waterfront!

Thanks much Karl.

Jeroen
December 2022
There is a guy called Nightshift on YouTube. He has a channel there and builds awesome dioramas . He videos the process and did a number with resin pours, including solutions for the bubbling. You might want to check him out Ken!

Jeroen
December 2022

KKarns
December 2022
Have been following Martin for a few years now. Right, he does an excellent job on the water.

MitchN
December 2022
Ken, you probably already made your pour but I will comment briefly.

I was concerned about the resin pour for my sawmill but Carl Laskey and Brett coached me through it.

Do a trial pour with a scrappable model piece where you can observe the look of the colored resin over the painted pond bottom. It will make you confident you are going in the right direction and not be dispppaointed with the result.

Resin creep is a real thing and I tried to minimize it by painting the shoreline to the proper finished level. I believe I had mixed results but no one but you will really notice once you are finished.

I blew through a straw to eliminate the bubbles with my self made carbon dioxide. Be careful about saliva because once it is in the resin, it is in the resin.

KKarns
December 2022
Lol…if I use that method on the bubbles I’ll try and keep it dry.

I like the test of the opacity and color before the final pour idea Mitch. Should be easy to do and thanks for the note. No, I’m not even close to doing the pour yet. The diorama needs to be completely done with water the last thing to do.

brownbr
December 2022
Great video. I like his work a lot. Picked up some rust techniques from him.

Dave_S
December 2022
Ken,
Yes, capillary action is a definite issue wit resin pours in narrow spaces. Wish I had a solution. But you can be pretty certain someone has figured something out. Possibly just making the “creep” look like a small wave. Not sure how that would look, however.
Later, Dave S. Tucson, AZ

Dave_S
December 2022
Ken,
FWIW. I am basically a woodworker. In doing my mesquite wood projects I encounter many voids and cracks in the material. I use two part epoxy tinted to fill these imperfections. Even when I mix very slowly to reduce bubbles in the mixture some always appear in the pour. As previously suggested by Carl I have found the best method to get rid of the bubbles is to use a hair dryer. However, you will notice the blowing action may make the surface of the epoxy move, “creep”. This may be less than desirable for flat surfaces that will not be sanded. On my projects I have the luxury of sanding to smooth the surface when the mix is cured.
Later, Dave S. Tucson, AZ

KKarns
December 2022
Thanks for your input here Dave. I agree on the resin wicking up a bit on whatever it contacts is likely unavoidable. The surface wave texture I’ll be doing after the main water has hardened should make this unnoticeable in the end.

MuddyCreekRR
December 2022
To avoid the creep up plaster work…use a rubber cement or one of the liquid masking agents available…“paint” it down to the water line about 1" up the bank…pour…then peel off the rubber cement…will work on wood too…but the wood needs to be sealed with a matte medium to avoid the wood absorbing the rubber cement carrying agent…test it first obviously…

Karl.A
December 2022
The ‘creep’ is more realistic looking to my mind. I’ve never understood people trying to prevent it.
A wall/piling/rock in the water will be wet above the actual water level due to waves/ripples/lapping, also water soaking up.
Likewise a sand/dirt/gravel shoreline will be wet/damp above/beyond the water level due to the water soaking into the substrate and also the waves/ripples/water movement.

I don’t think I’ve ever seen a perfectly dry shoreline where the water meets the ‘edge’.
If you think about it, we should embrace the ‘creep’.

I know Ken will get it looking great either way.

MuddyCreekRR
December 2022
Good point Karl…but different products leave varying creep heights…always test an obscure area if possible to see what will happen…

KKarns
December 2022
I agree Karl, I don’t believe its going to be an issue. Appreciate the thoughts here Art. we’ll see how it goes and I’ve already put down some textured material along the shoreline so masking might screw that up. I believe Karl’s correct, that any creep is or can be made to appear natural. Fun stuff planning the whole thing…

MuddyCreekRR
December 2022
In the end…is does it look right to you…some of the products do tend to creep too far…others not so much…since it is tidal water…Karl is right with saying that the moisture would show up the wood or beach some…now in a pond…unless there was and earthquake…it wouldn’t be as much…if you like the way it looks…I like the way it looks…

KKarns
December 2022
Embrace the creep!

kebmo
December 2022
hug me then…

KKarns
December 2022
Heard that about you! hehe.

KKarns
December 2022
Have a small update for those following my Shelby’s build.

Planted the Bait & Tackle Shop and stair sections leading to the floating dock. Between the landing and the floating dock will be a ramp that will move with the tide level. I placed several spacers under the floating dock so the “water” will be at an appropriate level after the pour. The lighting is hooked up and tested for the interior.

Completed most of the tedious track work save for the section running from the main building across on the trestle. Have not planted the main structure to allow better access to detailing around the hoist house.

As outlined in my previous builds, I hand lay code 55 rail and then add scratch built rail joiners and rail spike heads. This took an entire evening to do as the spike heads are tiny sections of solder, blackened and installed one-by-one.

More later.

randyp
December 2022
Ken the track looks fantastic. The spikes look about right and one per tie would be enough for a little used siding. The riol joiners on the inside of the rails might interfere if this was a track that you would be using for freight cars. The building and stairs look really good. All I can say is you had better be in shape if you plan to go fishing off that floating dock. Randy

KKarns
December 2022
Thanks Randy. Not sure I have seen one spike per tie before? Also, rail joiners have an outside and a matching inside plate bolted together (see photo as an example). Right…long way to the beach!

randyp
December 2022
OK Ken I stand corrected. Nice picture.

CarlLaskey
December 2022
Ken.
Ouch so harsh…

EmeryJ
December 2022
Ken, I wish my results were as good as your mistakes. Which I have yet to find any. LOL.
Outstanding work as always.

KKarns
December 2022
No worries Randy…now granted, my scaled joiners are too big for the rail but to make them any smaller I wouldn’t be able to have the NBWs on them…I’m using the smallest ones that you can still see! lol.

Appreciate that Emery, but I just figure out how to hide them!

Karl.A
December 2022
Ken has it right, and as usual, the execution is outstanding.

Karl.A
December 2022
CarlLaskey said:
Ken.
Ouch so harsh…

Ken’s modelling was questioned, he showed that he was right.
I don’t see what’s harsh about that.

randyp
December 2022 edited December 2022
I don’t either. I was just worried about our oversized flanges hitting the bolts on the inside of the rail. Randy

MuddyCreekRR
December 2022
there are some small fish plates out there…I think San Juan

brownbr
January 2023
Glad to see you added a handrail to the staircase. Safety first.

KKarns
January 2023
Hey Karl, appreciate that my friend. I do put a lot of effort into my track work and in 1:87 scale is a bit tedious for sure. Things like nail holes and rail joiners if made to actual scale would be hard if not impossible to see or notice.

Lol…right on Randy…I would never put those rail joiners in like that if I was actually trying to run trains as they would never clear. Works great for a static model and once weathering and scenic work is done they give the appearance of proto track.

Will check that out Art and thanks for the steer.

Yup, lose your footing on those stairs Bryan, and it’s a one way trip into the drink!

Jerry
January 2023
Beautiful work as usual! It’s all in the details!

Jerry

KKarns
January 2023
Thanks so much Jerry. For sure it is…details,details…

MuddyCreekRR
January 2023
I can’t find the photo I have of the EBT rail joiners (fish plates)…but I remember the bolt heads being on the inside of the rail…and the nuts /washers on the outside…and the heads being kinda small…in mainline practice…most railroads used these plates to keep the rail together and aligned…for temporary track work…not so much…Since I’m doing a layout in a 25 x 15 foot space…hand laying of track is not that easy…I may do it on deep backwoods spurs…but my mainline is all Peco…for dioramas…hand laying is the way to go…

TomMich
January 2023
That structure is integrated into the landscape very nicely! My knees are aching looking at those stairs!

KKarns
January 2023
Hey thanks Tom. The stairways associated with the Bait & Tackle Shop add a ton of character to the structure. Takes a bit of planning to get it properly integrated into the hillside as you mentioned.

MuddyCreekRR
January 2023 edited January 2023
I’d love to see this in O scale…have some ideas for my waterfront…a while off though…Looking so good

KKarns
January 2023
Hey thanks Art.

admin
January 2023
Can’t wait for your next update!

KKarns
January 2023 edited January 2023
Peer pressure!..Quick update on Shelby’s. I have basically finished the floating dock and ramp. The ramp has a steel rod and hinge type affair to allow the ramp to move up and down with the dock. Will have some additional details on the dock itself later on. Getting there…

KKarns
January 2023

Jim M
January 2023
Wow Ken, this is fantastic. I feel like diving in off that dock. I love the rock work, so darn realistic. Great job.

KKarns
January 2023
HI Jim! Appreciate that my friend.

EmeryJ
January 2023
That is an outstanding detail idea Ken! Many docks had that floating function. I have never seen one modeled. Just excellent!!!

KKarns
January 2023
Hey Thanks for pointing that out and your kind comments. I haven’t seen that done either. Came up with it after looking at reference material and wanted to give it a go.

brownbr
January 2023
A neat feature to model for sure.

Robert.G
January 2023
Very well done Ken !!!

Jerry
January 2023
Great idea. Thanks for sharing all your work with us.

Jerry

sdrees
January 2023
Very nice Ken, you must be expecting some very high tides.

Karl.A
January 2023
Those three shots are pure quality Ken. The scenery work is outstanding.

KKarns
January 2023
I thought it something a bit different Bryan.

Thanks Robert!

You bet Jerry.

Thanks Stephen.

Hey Karl, Thanks so much.

EmeryJ
January 2023
Ken, if you gonna be a bear, might as well be a grizzly bear! RAWR. Outstanding sir.

KKarns
January 2023
Thanks much my friend!..

Karl.A
January 2023 edited January 2023
The ‘shale’ along the shoreline blends perfectly with the rocks giving such a nice transition, colouration and texture in that last pic is so perfect on everything.

KKarns
January 2023
Appreciate that Karl. First time doing a waterfront scene so learning as I go!

admin
January 2023
Love the floating dock!

MuddyCreekRR
January 2023
I think the colors and tones are perfect…nothing jumps out at you…it blends so well…thats always a concern…

KKarns
January 2023
Appreciate that Brett.

Thanks Art.

KKarns
January 2023
Working on the front of the Bait & Tackle Shop. Putting in a gas pump and associated details. Scratch built a pole light for the area and a filler pipe extension for the underground tank…just a couple fun little details.

MuddyCreekRR
January 2023
Every time I look at your work…I am amazed…until I see you holding it up with your thumb and fingers…and remember you work in HO scale…and then I am utterly amazed

KKarns
January 2023
Thanks Art, crazy stuff.

kebmo
January 2023
MuddyCreekRR said:
Every time I look at your work…I am amazed…until I see you holding it up with your thumb and fingers…and remember you work in HO scale…and then I am utterly amazed

it’s hard to imagine being able to do that kind of work in ho. i can’t even do it in o. fantastic looking deetz.

KKarns
January 2023
Hey thanks Kevin. So far so good being able to see this stuff!

Jim M
January 2023
Wow, that’s crazy good. A little birds nest tucked in above that angled bracket would be cool. Probably impossible, but it would be cool .

Karl.A
January 2023
Nothings impossible for Ken… it should be easy enough with a little clump of static fibres, some jute strands or even bristles from a paint brush.

KKarns
January 2023
Thanks much Jim. Lol…well yeah that could be done…

What ya think Karl, should I give it na go?

KKarns
January 2023
Detailed a couple of HO Scale SWSM Detail parts for Shelby’s. I added some water slide decals to both pieces. The lubester will have some oil and grunge added to the top prior to planting in the designated scene.

Karl.A
January 2023 edited January 2023
If it fits your scene Ken and your vision of what you want there.
Easy enough to build a nest ‘off diorama’ separately and then place it to see how it looks before you glue it in place.

Not sure the light pole would be a good location, but it might look cool depending where the pole is going.
Seems to be too much ‘out in the open’ for my way of thinking. All the nests I find around my place and watch the eggs hatch and grow are in little protected nooks and crannies away from the weather and predators Not wide out in the open.
Under the eaves, or, the speaker shelf in the gazebo, a corner in the garage above a cabinet… They can be visible, but usually protected.

Your model, your choice, I know you’ll do it right.

Karl.A
January 2023 edited January 2023
Fantastic Ken, hard to believe the quality of those prints and your work on them in HO,
That metalic sheen you have peaking through is perfect and shows off the quality of both Brett’s details and your work on them so well.

KKarns
January 2023
I think I’ll forgo the bird nest, at least in that location, for the good points you bring up.
Was fun thinking about it.

Thanks for your thoughts on the detail parts. The blue color turned out better than I had expected.

ALCO
January 2023
How do you produce such wonderful details with gargantuan fingers like those? (LOL)

kebmo
January 2023 edited January 2023
ALCO said:
How do you produce such wonderful details with gargantuan fingers like those? (LOL)

must be elves. it can’t be those bratwursts… :slight_smile:

TomMich
January 2023
Great work Ken! Been gone for a week and you’ve made some great progress. Really like the floating dock, and your scenery looks fantastic. I especially like the little bridge between the land and floating dock.

KKarns
January 2023
…Cracked me up Al & Kevin! Appreciate that and I guess I’m just used to it.

Thanks much Tom. That little bridge has a hinge affair on the land side that allows the access bride to also ride up and down with the dock.

Jerry
January 2023
Either you have really big hands or that’s a really tiny part!!!

Wonderful work as usual!!

Jerry

brownbr
January 2023
Great additions

KKarns
January 2023
Thanks Jerry. Those are small parts buddy!

They are really nice prints and love the square cans.

KKarns
January 2023
An additional SWSM 3D printed detail part to populate the Bait & Tackle Shop. Coke machine complete with stocked bottles. Such a great print!

Old dry transfer almost made it! I may fill in the the minor missing white lettering…maybe.

Now this is brilliant 3D rendering!

Karl.A
January 2023 edited January 2023
Very nicely done.
I think the chipped lettering matches the chipped cooler well.
It just needs dulling down a bit more to match.

KKarns
January 2023
Didn’t want to get any pigments on it in case I decided to fill in the lettering. Based on your thoughts here I’m going with it as is. Thanks for the nudge!

kebmo
January 2023
i’d leave it as is too. it looks great.

admin
January 2023
Holy cow, just amazing. The double light is wonderful. Beautiful execution.

The finishing on the 3D Printed details is outstanding.

KKarns
January 2023
Thanks Kevin, already planted as is!

Thanks much Brett.

Jerry
January 2023
Amazing!!

Jerry

TomMich
January 2023
Awesome job on the Coke machine! Nicely weathered.

KKarns
January 2023
Thanks Jerry.

Appreciate that Tom.

MuddyCreekRR
January 2023
So Kool…nicely done…where’d the Coke decal come from…

KKarns
January 2023
Hey Thanks Art. That is actually a dry transfer from the kit. The transfers are getting some age on them so they are hit or miss.

MuddyCreekRR
January 2023
I haven’t bought the O scale Coke machine yet…I do have a place for it though…just ordered up some of Brett’s new logging equipment in resin…and spent my monthly allowance…lol

EmeryJ
January 2023
Wow Ken… just WOW. Love the coke machine!

KKarns
January 2023
Thanks Emery, it fits right in to the motif of the Bait & Tackle Shop.

KKarns
January 2023
Working on the pier end of the Bait & Tackle Shop. I decided to add a fish cleaning station to provide a bit of interest and take up some of the square footage of the pier so it looks lived in!

Here is a little scratch built light pole and hose connection that will sit beside the fish cleaning station.

Fingers got way too grubby to have in this picture so scale will have to be a pair of forceps.

TomMich
January 2023
Very nice!

brownbr
January 2023
I think the way the nozzle is facing, it may be a fisherman cleaning station.

KKarns
January 2023
Thanks Tom.

It is that.

mikemettelka
January 2023
What did you use for the conduit?

KKarns
January 2023
.032 Phosphor Bronze Wire

kebmo
January 2023
that looks great.

admin
January 2023
Love it! What a great detail.

KKarns
January 2023
Thanks much Kev.

Having so much fun detailing the Bait & Tackle Shop! So much character packed into this relatively small structure. Things are coming together and appreciate the support here Brett.

Jerry
January 2023
Something new everyday!! Your details are wonderful!!

Jerry

Joel
January 2023
Great little details.

KKarns
January 2023
Thanks Joel and nice hearing from you!

randyp
January 2023
As always Ken, great looking detail. Randy

KKarns
January 2023 173.88.78.186
Thanks Randy and nice hearing from you.

KKarns
January 2023
Working on more details for the Bait & Tackle Shop. Finished up a specimen of one example of Bretts 3D hand trucks and crate. I added the rope securing strap. These hand trucks have such amazing detail! I’ll always maintain a stock of these for future projects.

Karl.A
January 2023
Very nice indeed ! Great job.

KKarns
January 2023
Thanks my man! appreciate that.

Jim M
January 2023
That looks incredible. I can’t believe how small and how good that is. Crazy.

MuddyCreekRR
January 2023
Really nice…That’s a neat detail…

Jerry
January 2023
Beautiful work!!

Jerry

Joel
January 2023
Just incredible. Bothe the 3d print and your finishing.

Jeroen
January 2023
I have been looking in awe these last couple of weeks at these small details. Stellar work is probably an understatement. I can’t wait to see all this in the whole…

KKarns
January 2023
Hey thanks Jim!

Appreciate that Art.

Jerry, thanks for your thoughts here.

Nice hearing from you Joel and appreciate that. Can’t get enough of these amazing 3D parts.

KKarns
January 2023
Thanks much Jeroen. I figured to highlight some of these details for a couple reasons; firstly, to showcase the incredible work Brett et.al. have put into making these details available and secondly, to highlight some details that deserve special attention. I also try and keep the thread fresh despite my slow modeling so these guys fill the gaps somewhat.

Jerry
February 2023
Do we have an update on this wonderful project??

Jerry

KKarns
February 2023
Gettin there Jerry. I have the main structure planted, all the track work done, lighting of both structures done. Working my way around the main building with details and scenic work. Have three trees made but not “planted” yet. Remaining projects on the punch list are; the overhead crane, electrical service poles, and the boat. Thanks for rattling my cage here buddy!

Finished the last remaining pilings for the main structure wharf.

MuddyCreekRR
February 2023
I am no where near working on my waterfront…but I so want to start making pilings…They look really good…love the evidence of gulls and the “green stuff”…

admin
February 2023
I can smell the saltwater, stale beer, and fish…

KKarns
February 2023
Thanks Art…they are a lot of fun to do.

Lol…mission accomplished Brett!

mikemettelka
February 2023
What are you using for modeling the electrical hookups at the building from the pole?

KKarns
February 2023
I scratch build all my electrical poles and use only insulators and the transformers as detail parts. The building connections are both scratch built and box and meter detail parts.

Jerry
February 2023
Awesome detailing!!

Jerry

KKarns
February 2023
Thanks Jerry!

brownbr
February 2023
Very nice. Hope to copy these on my next build.

KKarns
February 2023
Thanks Bryan.

Jeroen
February 2023
Ken! Awesome work. I never seize to be amazed by the colors. You have this way to keep them distinct but toned down so beautifully. Looking at all those details really makes me curious about the whole. Patience, I know…

KKarns
February 2023
Thanks much Jeroen. I know my posts lately are a bit lame with respect to content, but I am making progress on the diorama as a whole. The details do look a whole lot better once planted, with just a few areas around the main structure to flesh out.

TomMich
February 2023
Hand truck turned out very nice! Also the pilings. I like the metal banding near the top, and how they are flared out at the top from pounding them into the ground. Can’t wait to see the diorama as a whole.

KKarns
February 2023
Hey Thanks and nice you noticed those little details. I was working on how to make a long stick interesting!

TomMich
February 2023
You certainly achieved your goal! Those long sticks are very interesting.

KKarns
February 2023
Mission accomplished!

KKarns
February 2023
Just finished up my Shelby’s diorama today and will be pouring the water this week. Have the main fishing boat to finish. However, it won’t be attached to the boat haul trolley, so not figured into the final imaging for the next update. Going over it with a critical eye for any final touches before the water pour.

Jeroen
February 2023
Can’t wait to see the pictures Ken! Very, very curious how this will turn out!

randyp
February 2023
I am on pins and needles waiting to see the finished scenery. I know it will be fantastic because everything up to now has been Randy

Karl.A
February 2023
Can’t wait to see your work on this Ken.
I know it’s going to be incredible.

Joel
February 2023
I too am looking forward to seeing what you accomplish.

MuddyCreekRR
February 2023
Anxiously awaiting the photos…

KKarns
February 2023
Pushed along today and just about finished with the boat. Such an iconic part of the Shelby’s kit that I didn’t want the initial images of the completed diorama to be without it. Appreciate the thoughts and wanted to get the thread up to date in lieu of the final pics. Can’t believe its been just over a year since I started the build…good grief!..

randyp
February 2023
It looks like an enjoyable year well spent. Randy

kebmo
February 2023
must’ve been all the vacations…

mikemettelka
February 2023
Excited to see this, but at the same time sad cause I know that you are knocking them down and will be out of ones to build eventually.

Jerry
February 2023
Looking forward to the final pictures on this one! Ken I’m sure it was a year worth of fun for you!
And it sure was fun for us to get to follow along on the adventure.

Jerry

KKarns
February 2023
That’s for sure Randy! When I looked back on all my previous SWSM builds, I average one a year…give or take.

Lol…right Kevin! No where near the amount of time I should be taking off.

Should prove an interesting final reveal as I posted very few in-progress shots, save for the interior of the main building.

Appreciate that Jerry. Can’t imagine going through this build without you hooligans to hob knob with along the way!

KKarns
February 2023 edited February 2023
On a diorama the size of Shelby’s, which is 23.5" x 24", with three structures and all the supporting track, trestle, piers, boats, etc…it’s hard to know when to say when with respect to details. Case in point…I thought I was done with Shelby’s detail work. However, there was an empty space next to the hoist shed that was bothering me. Brett chronicled the history of the hoist house in the Shelby’s manual…“Shelby’s switched from steam donkey engine power to electric in order to hoist the boats out of the water”. I completed the electrical detail work for the hoist and decided, at the last minute, to fill that empty space with the old steam boiler that was replaced. Brett had sent me an example of a 3D printed boiler, which gave me the perfect piece for the scene. I decided to cut the top off the boiler to appear it was being parted out. To add a little interest I made a canvas cover over the top stack to keep out rain water and will position it next to the boiler which is laying vertically. Yes, this is to keep you on the hook until I can get the water poured and post the results.

Boiler stack with canvas cover tied on…

randyp
February 2023
Very nice detail with the rope and canvas cover. Not usually thought of. Nie of you to still keep us involved. What kit is going to come next? Randy

kebmo
February 2023
i knew girls like you in high school…

Karl.A
February 2023
kebmo said:
i knew girls like you in high school…

haha, ‘tease’…

But, we know Ken will be worth the wait.

Jerry
February 2023
Teasing again!!! Beautiful story and detail.

Jerry

TomMich
February 2023
Nice little detail! Can’t wait to see the final product. I know it’s going to be amazing!

KKarns
February 2023
Hey thanks Randy. I’ll confirm, but I believe the HO/HOn3 release after Shelby’s was the Logging and Tractor Repair Shed.

Ha, I hear ya Kevin…I knew a few as well!

Thanks for the vote of confidence Karl!

Thanks Jerry…not much but keeps things moving.

Thanks much Tom. Hopefully pictures over the next couple days and posting this weekend.

KKarns
March 2023 edited March 2023
Finished up the boat that came with the Shelby’s kit. The boat came as a two part solid resin casting. I performed a few modifications to the casting to achieve the look I wanted. The upper casting had two simulated wood doors covering the access to the lower deck, all cast as one piece. I first drilled multiple holes in the casting then used my Dremel to grind off the simulated wood access hatch and hollow out an opening underneath. The hollowed out area was painted black to give the appearance of space of the lower deck. I then framed the opening in stripwood and added some stairs and simulated metal doors. The wheel house originally had a curved front with openings without actual windows. I decided to add actual window castings but the curved front of the wheel house would have required scratch built frames and curved “glass”. I wanted to just drop in regular window castings so i made the front of the wheel house with three flat panels with windows. I added a prop and rudder to the underside, deck details, painted and weathered everything to taste.

Starboard side (deck drain holes were added)

Port side

Bow view showing the modified wheel house front.

View of some of the deck details.

Heavily modified opening to lower deck and engine compartment.

Good view of the added lower opening and stairs.

KKarns
March 2023
Here is the prop and rudder I added for extra detail and visual interest.

Jim M
March 2023
Amazing. Great job with the modifications too. It all looks fantastic.

Kevin L
March 2023
Great modelling.

kebmo
March 2023
Kevin L said:
Great modelling.

no kidding. jeez…

KKarns
March 2023
Thanks Jim. Forgot to mention I’ll be adding handles and hinges to the doors.

Thanks much Kevin L.

Appreciate that Kevin. Just made the first water pour on the diorama. Second pour tomorrow, then the surface texture and done!

brownbr
March 2023
Sweet! Is the boat in the water or out? I think I missed that part.

I think a grunge ring around the waterline would be spot on and right up your alley. And it needs a name.

KKarns
March 2023
Thanks Bryan,

The boat will sit on the boat carrier out of the water and will not be attached and removable.

You’re right about the grunge line, didn’t think about that so appreciate the steer.

I know the thing should have a name and wrestled with that and in the end just didn’t do it. I’ll revisit that…only due to the peer pressure! hehe.

Jeroen
March 2023
Well, excuse me for a minute while I pick my jaw up from the floor. Ain’t this just breathtaking? You’re really raising the bar Ken!

KKarns
March 2023
Appreciate that my friend! Been checking on the first water pour and so far so good. No leaks and the color is what I was hoping for.

Karl.A
March 2023
Looks great so far, looking forward to seeing it in place.

KKarns
March 2023
Thanks Karl.

KKarns
March 2023
The first water pour went well. No leaks and it set up well. The next pour will establish the final water level and will be followed by the surface wave texture.

With the next pour I will increase the opacity of the color as it is a bit too clear which isn’t giving me the illusion of depth that I want. Probably a mute point once the wave texture is applied.

KKarns
March 2023 edited March 2023
Another point to make in dealing with the resin “creep” we dealt with before…I added moss and algae along the rocks at the shoreline which the resin crept into, giving a really nice wet look to the algae. Making an inherent problem work to an advantage.

brownbr
March 2023
That turned out nice. I like being able to see the submerged ground. I know you are going for more opacity, but this works.

Clever way to take advantage of the creep.

KKarns
March 2023
I think once the surface texture is on the illusion of depth will be fine. Thanks for your thoughts Bryan, and may just make the second pour about the same opacity and count on the surface work to enhance the look of depth.

Jerry
March 2023
Good God does the detailing ever stop!! What a beautiful looking boat!!
And the water pour perfect.

Jerry

ALCO
March 2023
I’m doing Foss’ Landing so I’m taking notes on your boat detailing and the resin pour. The moss/algae idea sounds great! Thanks for taking the time to post in detail. It’s definitely worth it!

KKarns
March 2023
Thanks so much Jerry!..really appreciate ya.

You bet Al. Soon as I’m done here, I’m going for the final pour this afternoon. Just about 24 hours from the first.

TomMich
March 2023
Boat turned out GREAT! I’m surprised you didn’t add any submerged debris along the banks of the water. The rock work is very good also. The subtle peak at the details on the pier look really nice. Can’t wait to see the final reveal.

KKarns
March 2023
Thanks Tom, appreciate it. The main reason I didn’t add any debris was that most of the shoreline is steep falling off quickly to deep water. At least that’s what I tried to convey. Being an ocean front with tides and waves, there might not be much debris that would stay put. Anyway, that’s my excuse Tom! lol. I know that stuff looks cool with a water pour like this.

KKarns
March 2023
Here is the same view right after the second pour. There is a slight increase in the opacity which I think gives a better illusion of deeper water. Still a few bubbles to remove.

ALCO
March 2023
what are you using to make the resin dams? Thin plastic strips?

KKarns
March 2023 edited March 2023
Al, It’s Tamiya masking tape backed up by some thicker double sided tape. The Tamiya tape sticky side is fairly smooth so the edge of the exposed resin will be smooth after removal. However, it isn’t very sturdy so the really sticky double sided tape lends good support and adhesion. Worked great and no leaks!

Yellow is the Tamiya masking tape. The blue is the thick, sticky, double sided tape. The blue is the backing not removed on the outside.

brownbr
March 2023
2nd pour turned out great. The coastline disappears under the water. Very cool.

KKarns
March 2023
I think it helped a lot. Just put the surface texture on and waiting for it to dry…we’ll see.

mikemettelka
March 2023
Excited to see this… going to be amazing like all the others you’ve done

kebmo
March 2023
i can’t wait for the waveage…

randyp
March 2023
Ken you are a master with all things in this build. I am happy to see the resin pour looking so smooth. What did you use for the water? The boat is a little gem in an out standing build. What was used for the net hanging over the side of the boat. Super job Ken on all aspects of the build. Randy

KKarns
March 2023
Hey Thanks Mike…too kind my friend!

The project is completely done Kevin. waveage turned out OK, I’ll let guys see what you think.

Appreciate that Randy. I’ll post some pictures of the products and methods I used for the water and surface texture. I was happy with how the boat turned out as I was a bit apprehensive going into it. I have a smaller boat tied up to the dock that also turned out OK as well. The netting is fabric Tule that is frequently used for wedding vails when not being used for modeling! I spray painted it and used some pigments to dirty it up a bit. It’s thin but when folded over itself several times gives some volume appearance to it and it looks more the part.

KKarns
March 2023
Nice day today in Ohio so I got some initial pictures of my finished Shelby’s diorama. Over the next week or so I’ll get more pictures of the details and closer shots of the various mini scenes, etc.

I’ll start things off with some pictures of the water and associated details.

Later pics will show the boat in the boat haul carrier.

More later…Ken

Karl.A
March 2023
Well now, thats pretty danged incredible.
Outstanding.

Jim M
March 2023
Holy crap, this is so awesome. I love it. You’ve really captured the feel of this seaside establishment. So cool to be able to see the different depths in the water too. This is museum quality; you should be so proud of this accomplishment. I am in awe of your work. Great job. A+

randyp
March 2023
Ken a fantastic work of art. Was the buoy part of the Kit or did you scratch build it? It looks perfect. Now all you need are some seagulls and evidence of them having been there. BEAUTIFUL. Randy

KKarns
March 2023
Thanks so much Karl.

Hey Jim, really appreciate your thoughts here.

Karl.A
March 2023
Best I’ve seen, looking forward to seeing more…

sdrees
March 2023
Very nice Ken, and what a different take it is on it.

Jerry
March 2023
No words can describe that scene!! A true craftsman’s doing what he does best!!

Jerry

gjdale
March 2023
Just wow! Incredible job on the water (not to mention the rest of the build).

brownbr
March 2023
Outstanding build!

kebmo
March 2023
Karl.A said:
Well now, thats pretty danged incredible.
Outstanding.

hear hear!! that turned out fantastic!

admin
March 2023
Unreal! That’s a Hall of Fame entry for sure!

KKarns
March 2023
Well Randy I certainly appreciate that. The channel marker buoy was a plastic kit that I added for some visual interest. Yeah, bird crap on the thing would be cool. May add that detail later but it was one of the last things I added and I was fading fast!

Hey thanks again Karl and coming from
You means a great deal. I’ll get some additional pictures around the diorama at some point soon.

Thanks Stephen

Appreciate that Jerry, nice of you to say.

Thanks so much Grant…was happy with how the water turned out.

Thanks much Bryan

Thanks Kevin

Appreciate that Brett.

kebmo
March 2023
what’s next?

ALCO
March 2023
The marker buoy out there in all that water—what a great design idea! Really anticipating the closeup pix.

mikemettelka
March 2023
Oh boy, oh boy, oh boy, oh boy… that looks phenomenal!

Kevin L
March 2023

Fantastic build.

Jeroen
March 2023
Incredible work. I have been waiting a long time for these overall pics and they are even better than I expected. Awesome Ken, this is a whole new level of modeling and I hope to see more soon! Congrats on a stellar build!

KKarns
March 2023
Well Kevin, the next kit released after Shelby’s I believe was the Logging and Tractor Repair Shed.

Hey thanks for mentioning that Al. I felt the near field, when viewing from what we can call the front, needed something. The buoy fit the bill perfectly as it gave some context to the expanse of water, added visual interest, and contributed to the maritime feel of things which I didn’t do a very good job with! I’ll work my way around the diorama with some pictures and then get a few detailed shots at some point.

Thanks so much Mike!

Thanks a lot Kevin.

Appreciate that Jeroen. Feels good to finally button this project up.

KKarns
March 2023
More pictures as I work around the diorama:

Karl.A

March 2023
On a diorama this big, with so much ‘space’ it’s always hard to fill up the ‘dead’ areas convincingly.
Yet you always manage to do it so well and make the large areas look full, busy and, most importantly ‘natural’.
A great gift and skill you have.

KKarns
March 2023
No doubt my friend…the fear of empty space! Thanks so much.

mikemettelka
March 2023
Did you make the trees? Where did you get the electrical boxes and telephone pole insulators?

MuddyCreekRR
March 2023
Phenomenal…I keep looking at the photos to try and see all the details…and all in HO…unreal…I love to try an O scale version some day…

kebmo
March 2023
that is one awesome looking diorama. it’s a shame you don’t have a layout, because it would be a fantastic layout.

KKarns
March 2023
Right Mike, I made the trees. I will PM you regarding the electrical details.

Thanks much Art.

Thought about it years ago Kevin but I model slow enough as it is without having to work on a layout also!

ALCO
March 2023
A cup (or two) of coffee and Ken’s pix—what a way to start the day!

TomMich
March 2023
AWESOME!!! I agree with Karl, the way you utilize the space and make things look so natural is fantastic. Hope you are going to post some more close up photos. The buoy really adds to the whole effect.

KKarns
March 2023
There ya go Al!

Thanks Tom. I’m on my way outside with this thing to get some close up shots of the details. More later…

KKarns
March 2023
Took some detail pictures…first round will be from the “front” of the diorama.

Interior lighting shots.

sdrees
March 2023
I am glad that you have installed lights in the project because it shows off the fabulous details you have installed in the otherwise dark interior.

brownbr
March 2023
Your level of detail sets a new standard. I really enjoy looking around and finding new surprises buried deep within each scene.

kebmo
March 2023
holy mackerel! this is a guaranteed best in show. you have to enter this in a contest. it’s spectacular.

admin
March 2023
It’s very interesting how this build has come together. As we followed along with your build, enjoying the details being constructed, we certainly got a sense that this would be amazing… BUT, never could imagine just how incredible the final dio would appear.

KKarns
March 2023 edited March 2023
I agree Stephen, the lights make a big difference. Shelby’s is a perfect structure to have interior lighting. Thanks for your thoughts.

Thanks so much Bryan. I’ll post additional pictures soon of the rest of the diorama.

Appreciate that Kevin! I will never enter a model in a competition. If I take a model to a show it will be display only. I have my reasons and may start a new topic to air same.

KKarns
March 2023
Awfully nice of you to say Brett! Really appreciate the support through this project. Real privilege to work on such a wonderful and iconic kit from the SierraWest Scale Models stable. The water portion of the work was so much fun and relived it turned out OK without any disasters!

Mountaingoat
March 2023
Superb Ken. Just no words to truly describe your work. You take the best kits in the world and add so much personality to them…Rick

MitchN
March 2023
Ken, it takes a long time to read War and Peace but it is a literary classic. It took a long time to see the final pictures but they reveal a classic.

I like the rowboat next to the dock picture. Lots of unexpected details.

I especially like the last picture with the lighted interior. It shows off your workmanship and the essence of a Sierra West kit.

Jerry
March 2023
After looking at this again & again!! If this was at the Narrow Gauge Convention it would be Best of Show hands down!!

This is really museum quality!!

Jerry

BenPopper
March 2023
incredible. This will inspire me for a long time to come

TomMich
March 2023
So much to look at! I find more each time I look. I see you used the grate between the rails on the dock for a grade crossing. Nice touch. I also like all the little details around the little fenced in area next to the overhead crane. Simply incredible! Well worth the wait to see what you have created. Thanks for sharing and the inspiration you give through your work!

ALCO
March 2023 edited March 2023
Ditto, ditto, ditto! A beautiful overall design with many, many mini-scenes and beautiful detail parts wonderfully presented! We can all go to school looking at this marvel.

kebmo
March 2023 edited March 2023
Jerry said:
After looking at this again & again!! If this was at the Narrow Gauge Convention it would be Best of Show hands down!!

This is really museum quality!!

Jerry

except, i’ve never seen anythinjg quite this outstanding in any museum…
i think it deserves its own gallery page.

KKarns
March 2023
Thanks so much Rick. SWSM kits beg to be built!

I appreciate the patience Mitch as I’m a slow as we have all come to tolerate! lol. The row boat was a fun scene to put together. I now see I need to put some tension on the bow line loop. One of these builds I’m going to get a bit more studious on my lighting. I’m doing the minimum but really does make a difference as you mention. Thanks for your support Mitch as always.

Nice thought Jerry, but I get more value and enjoyment from sharing and knocking elbows with you all than any award I may, or may not, win. As I mentioned to Kevin, I will not enter any competitions but would enjoy displaying my work at a show if I can manage to get to any. Really miss hanging out and hobnobbing with you fellow modelers. Why would I like to display…simple…it generates conversation and it goes on from there. More fun if you bring something to a show. My Dad use to say “it’s like going to a car show without a car…just not as much fun”

Hey Ben…wow man, that’s about as nice a compliment as I can imagine getting! Knowing that my work inspired someone is gold! Thanks my friend.

Thanks Al! I actually thought about counting every individual detail part I placed on this diorama. May still do that just for fun…we’ll see.

Thanks Kev. Too kind buddy!

KKarns
March 2023
Unless anyone wants any specific shots this will be the last group of photos.

I got tired of hauling this thing outside for pictures! Some of the following pictures were taken indoors and are not the best.

Signature burn barrel scene. I don’t think I can do a diorama without one!

Not happy with this picture…oh well…

Modified Hoist House. Shortened to allow for the covered two drum hoist. Added rear open shed roof.

Added the two drum cable hoist and shed. Foundation is the original kit piece.

Tall boy step ladder to reach the boat…right…the one that’s not there!

Boat cradle detail.

Preparation for re-painting the row boat.

My feelings are hurt that nobody mentioned the damn fish! I decided to create a fish cleaning station on the Bait & Tackle Shop pier. I did something that was against my better judgement and that was to include an animal in one of my dioramas! Oh well…always good to get out of your comfort zone. Forgot to put the fishing rod in the scene. I’ll get a picture…HO scale fishing pole!

Jeroen
March 2023
Superlatives are not enough to describe your work Ken. And everything probably has been said already. So what does that diorama actually mean? Quality time I’d say. For you as the builder, that’s obvious. But for me it means lighting the fire place, pour a cup of coffee, sit down and marvel at the pics and dream away on how to create a little world myself from Brett’s kits. It’s childhood joy. So thank you for that.

Kevin L
March 2023
Wow what a wonderful build well deserved praise from everyone.

brownbr
March 2023
As much as I like the overall shots, I really like to dig deep into your detail work with the close ups. Outstanding presentation.

That must be a tough fish to need a hacksaw.

KKarns
March 2023
Thank you Jeroen, such a nice heart felt take on modeling and encapsulates the lure of the hobby so well.

Thanks Kevin and what a great bunch of modelers here! I would take you guys over any competition any day.

Hey appreciate that Bryan. I agree, I love the subtile details that aren’t readily apparent until you get your nose into it! Hacksaw the heads off those suckers! lol…

kebmo
March 2023
o’neill’s fabrication makes filet knives on the side. give him a call…heheheh

Jim M
March 2023
I have to confess that I didn’t notice the fish, but now that you’ve pointed them out, they are awesome; what a great little scene. There are so many fantastic scenes in this diorama, so you can’t blame us for missing some. Really easy to get lost looking at everything that is so very well done.
I don’t know what it is about the gas pump scene that really catches my eye, but it is amazing too. Hard to believe this is HO, you should be very proud of this.

KKarns
March 2023
Lol…I guess I’ll give you a pass on not noticing the fish!

Appreciate your thoughts here Jim. The fueling scene was a lot of fun to work out. Wanted it to be a bit unassuming so tucked it up under the tree and next to the chain link fence.

MuddyCreekRR
March 2023
I too missed the fish…it looks like a prehistoric coelacanth…

Jerry
March 2023
Signature burn barrel scene. I don’t think I can do a diorama without one!

Ken Brian Nolan’s was a gas pump in every diorama he did.

Jerry

KKarns
March 2023
That’s pretty cool Jerry, thanks for that.

ALCO
March 2023
“Upon further review”, I think the way you did the water currents turned out quite well!

KKarns
March 2023
Thanks Al. I contemplated the surface texture for some time and was happy with how the “wave action” appears. Wanted it coming from a slight angle towards the trestle from the more open water.

KKarns
March 2023
You’ll have to suffer through some additional pictures as I realized I had forgotten to take any photos with the boat in the diorama. Geesh!..the boat is the focal point of the entire project to some extent. Not sure how I missed that. I also got a shot of the HO scale fishing pole.

Here’s a stab at an HO scale fishing rod and reel. Not suitable for a close-up by any means, but with the naked eye looks passable…barely.

Done…

KKarns
March 2023
Sorry it took so long to get this info. to you Randy. Here is the materials I used for the water pour. I didn’t use the foam effects but may still add this sparingly along the shoreline to create a little foam/white water.

Joel
March 2023
WOW!!! Just Fantastic work. This may be your finest build and that’s saying something. Quite a special diorama. So many fine details and incredible scenes. Thank you for sharing this with us. Amazing work.

mikemettelka
March 2023
All I can say is… wow!

KKarns
March 2023
Hey Joel! Nice hearing from you my man. How’s things going in the far north? Thanks so much for your thoughts and certainly made my day. With the water effects, has to be one of my favorite SWSM kits and was a treat to build. Thanks again and look forward to talking with you again.

Thanks Mike! I certainly appreciate the short and sweet. You all are what makes modeling so enjoyable.

kebmo
March 2023
jusg a spectacular build. there’s no other way to properly describe it. a work of art.

KKarns
March 2023
Thanks so much Kevin. You’ve been a great support and motivator, appreciate that.

Jerry
March 2023
Just keeps getting better with each new picture!!

Jerry

KKarns
March 2023
Thanks Jerry. The only picture I forgot is the one with the one figure in the diorama. Ehh…not important but fun to do.

KKarns
March 2023 edited March 2023
Here’s the missing picture of my figure at the Bait & Tackle Shop counter.

Karl.A
March 2023
If that was my diorama I’d have a framed picture of it in every room of my house so that where ever I was I could just look at it and smile to myself.
Outstanding.

brownbr
March 2023
I wonder what he is looking for in there.

mikemettelka
March 2023
Everything is always so spot on with your work!

KKarns
March 2023
Well thanks Karl, appreciate that. The dimensions are making it a challenge to find something to put it in with a lid. May have to make something.

Bryan, he’s seeing if they carry any skin cream because his face looks terrible!

Thanks Mike.

admin
March 2023
A great running detail, the missing man!

Karl.A
March 2023
The fish cleaning station is a great original idea and so well executed.

KKarns
March 2023
I didn’t hide him very good this time!

Thanks Karl. Was hoping the fish weren’t to hoaky!

TomH
March 2023
Incredible work Ken. I’ve seen many old boats and you absolutely captured it.
I’ve got a Shelby’s in the closet. I think it’s next.

TomH
March 2023
I have to add that I showed this to some of my colleagues (we are yacht brokers) and several thought the water was “real”. Next level stuff here.

KKarns
March 2023
Nice Tom, it’s a great kit and definitely one to build. Fortunate to get one as they are getting hard to find. Thanks so much for your thoughts, appreciate it.

randyp
March 2023
Ken. Just so much to look at in this build. all of it done to perfection. I also missed the fish, nice touch. I can almost smell it. Thanks for letting me know what you used for the water. It looks great. You have something that you can be proud of creating. Can’t wait for your next build so we can follow along. Randy

KKarns
March 2023
Thanks so much Randy! Appreciate ya buddy.

Robert.G
March 2023
Ken, if I didn’t know this was an HO build, I’d never could tell. Another super build. A million details to discover and the water is just right !!! What a delight to look at.

KKarns
April 2023
Thanks Robert.