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MuddyCreekRR
April 2020 edited April 2020 in O Scale Builds
Recieved a pakage today containing the first part of the O Scale foundry kit. As usual overly impressed with the quality and instructions…so much so I’m going to start my build tonight…Love the stencils Brett…top notch stuff…Photos soon…
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admin
April 2020
Looking forward to this!
kebmo
April 2020
i can hardly wait!
brownbr
April 2020
Mine is in the mail!
I’ve been thinking about structure placement…which is a bit difficult without the actual structure in hand. However, I’d like everyone’s thoughts on this. I’m thinking of turning the foundry structure 180 degrees and putting it on the other side of the service track and running the overhead crane over the tracks.
Seems like there should be some type of hoist to load cars and I don’t think I’ll have room for a derrick or something like that. I’ll have plenty of time to toy with this idea so let’s hear it.
vietnamseabee
April 2020
I’m thinkin’ there’s a couple of real interesting builds to follow in the real near future
Terry
Jim M
April 2020
I got mine as well. Looking forward to it. It’s gonna be bit before I get to it though. I have 3 or 4 other kits to finish first. I’m blessed 
MuddyCreekRR
April 2020
I stopped working on my diorama using the Truck Repair and Tractor Repair along with a few other outbuildings to start this. Since it’s only the walls, doors and windows, and the roofs…it won’t take too long to get done…have the pattern shop wood textured, stained and painted…had some issues with photos, will upload them tomorrow…
MuddyCreekRR
April 2020
Mountaingoat
April 2020
Off to the races. The tortoise will win. Looking forward to this.
MuddyCreekRR
April 2020
Sorry for the photo quality…I am not a computer genius and I actually have 3 more photos I can’t get to post…working on that…first shot went up twice…trying something different with knots. Those pens are super fine points…just touch the tip to the wood…and the ink flows almost to look like a knot…but only hold it there for a second or two…experiment with it…I did some traditional toothpick knots too…once I can get the stained and painted photos to print…you can see the results better…Not going too quick…the texture and staining took me a few hours…the painting a few more…
MuddyCreekRR
April 2020
MuddyCreekRR
April 2020
Somehow lost 2 photos…but at least this one came out…it’s more red in real life…I found that the steel wool helped in areas I put down a wee tad too much paint…a double light pass on each piece softened them nicely…you can see a few of my “ink” knots on the right side…I kinda like em….today…some siding work…
MuddyCreekRR
April 2020
And as everyone says…the photos bring out the details…see a few spots that I want to tone down the red a bit…since it’s the oldest structure in the group…I want it to look old…but well maintained…(to an extent)….so I’m looking for the wood to show thru the paint…
MuddyCreekRR
April 2020
Brian…I have similar thoughts…I’ve gotten a lot done on O’Neills so far…and since I haven’t placed any structures yet…and mines going on the layout too…so…I need to plan ahead. Just a word on the layout…it’s going to go up in 8 foot sections…most no more than 24" wide…kinda like a modular layout that will be attached to the walls (on French cleats) with some peninsula’s too…having it across the tracks gives to the option of elevated oil piping too…
TomMich
April 2020
Painting and texture turned out great! Looks worn, bun not worn out.
brownbr
April 2020
Nice progress
Dave_S
April 2020
Muddy,
Are those Stabilo “Point 88” pens available for purchase other than in sets?
Later, Dave S. Tucson, AZ
MuddyCreekRR
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Dave…yes…I got those at Michaels…they were reasonably cheap too…not so sure online right now…just tried the same technique on the two walls I finished so far (photos later)….worked a bit better…then rubbed them with my finger with a little gray chalk on my finger…
brownbr
April 2020
Do you have a trackplan? I started with an around the room shelf layout and loaded it with my builds but I ran out of room for good viewing. If I had it to redesign I would take a few different things into consideration. I’ve found though that I haven’t run the trains in a couple of years. Maybe I just need a very small fiddle yard and take the rest out and put in shelves to display dioramas…or re-do the underneath supports to house display cases instead of storage. I’ll put this in the round tuit bucket.
MuddyCreekRR
April 2020
MuddyCreekRR
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I know…the photo quality sucks…but it’s a general idea…left wall…pattern shop…simulated tar paper under the wood…can’t fully weather until I get the other buildings in this installment done…and even then…until the other buildings get here eventually…I’ll try to get some photos outdoors tomorrow if it doesn’t rain…or get better lighting…my shop is all LED…
MuddyCreekRR
April 2020
My track plan changes every week in my mind…logging area…sawmill…engine facilities…small mine operation (coal)….small waterfront…I too have too many kits…area available right now is 20x12…someday…
MuddyCreekRR
April 2020
As for the pens…I got them at Michaels…they were in a display with separate pens…since they are currently closed by me…?..I think the key is the extra fine point…I originally got them to simulate nail heads as opposed to nail holes…
MuddyCreekRR
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Me thinks I should have looked again at the photo album of the HO foundry…I just realized that I detailed the walls in some spots that won’t be scene…covered with details…live and learn…but I will know it’s there…
brownbr
April 2020
It’s like painting the other side of the fence. Noone sees it but you know its there.
MuddyCreekRR
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Brett…totally agree…those #17 and #18 blades are the bomb…nice clean cuts…
KCSTrains
April 2020
Wow. Rapid progress. I’ll be following your build. Phil
KKarns
April 2020
Your wood work looks fantastic! Love the warm color and weathering…
tomtom
April 2020
Got mine! I’ll savor the package until you geniuses tell me how best to begin. Who’ll do the official thread? I’m going to do mine together with O’Neills – but what orientation? The boss suggests side by side, O’Neills still providing some recycled oil. I wondered about back-to-back (no one will know which side to look at). I might have 2 tracks between for a better view, perhaps a current, functional, branch line and a second, abandoned one. What think you? The problem is, to me, it doesn’t seem likely that RR right-of-way would have allowed such business proximity. I’ve yet to start O’Neills, procrastinating while I weather 200 Fast-Track ties and squint at 400 Proto:87 code 83 tie plates.
MuddyCreekRR
April 2020
Thanks Ken…don’t want to weather too much till I get the other structures at least started…but I did get it along to a certain point…the fact you like it makes me feel like I’m going the right way. I am doing the doors and windows a medium gray as opposed to the same color as the walls…just on a whim…….TomTom…back in the day these business would have been built…the railroads didn’t seem to have too much control…you should see some of the tracks running down streets in the metro area of NY and NJ…some would make you shudder they came so close to buildings…and in some cases…went right thru some…Its your world…so unless you are following a prototype…go for what looks good to you…Here’s a few more photos…
MuddyCreekRR
April
And no…it’s not glued together yet…that happens with the next box of goodies from Brett…I just mocked it together with some tape…windows and doors tomorrow…will also wait to weather the roof till I get further along…
And yes…I need to get some better lighting…it is stops raining I’ll try outdoors…
Mountaingoat
April 2020
I like what you have done so far. Rick
tomtom
April 2020
Thanks for the thoughts, MuddyCreekRR, I’ll take my liberties with the track (no prototype, but with my background it would be D&RG/D&RGW). Hey brownbr, the 180 degree turn and cross-track crane idea is very interesting. It might give an industrial train-yard feel to a scene decades earlier. In a way, it makes more sense than me piping oil (? Underground) across the track(s) from O’Neills to the Foundry. I’m planning my base to be 20x35” – hope that’s adequate.
MCRR, your work is great - and fast. I need to get busy!
MuddyCreekRR
April 2020
Thank you sir…it’s hard to go too far with only part of the kit…I can usually picture in my head how other stuff is going to look with the whole kit in front of me…
MuddyCreekRR
April 2020
TomTom…with no where to go other than the shop…I’ve put in about 10 hours since I opened the box…Thanks…
brownbr
April 2020
You are moving along quick. Must be under stay at home orders or something.
Tomtom, I have a few other ideas that I’m mulling over but I’ll post those on a separate thread. I asked Brett for a footprint for planning purposes and waiting on reply. It’s probably fair to assume that if the HO was 11x14 that the O would be about double that…22x24ish. We’ll have to see how the main structures turn out but I was thinking turning one of the structures would make the dio about 14x36ish
admin
April 2020
Great progress, loving what you are doing here!
Joel
April 2020
Wow You are just motoring along. Great work so far.
MuddyCreekRR
April 2020
Brian…I retired from the FD in 2018…still work with the volunteer department down here that keeps me busy enough…but with the Stay at Home stuff…all my side work teaching is shut down…so I am in the shop on and off all day…trading out on the yard work and house improvement stuff…I did slow down a bit…Brett…glad you approve my friend…still working on that other diorama I told you of…just wanted to switch up for a few weeks…I normally don’t post much here…as I am duplicating stuff that already been here…plus until I figured out the best way to size and post the photos…it never worked out…but rest assured…photos of the diorama progress will soon follow…And to all…as always…if you see anything I miss…or have a thought on a different idea…chime in…as fast as I seem to be going…this build will be over time as the installments arrive…Ok…back to the shop…
KKarns
April 2020
Now you have something! Fun part of the build when the walls start going up and you begin to get a feel for things. Corners and framing look nice and tight. Your stencil work is also perfectly done, worn but readable. Mine was almost too faded but too little is better than too much.
kebmo
April 2020
engine909 said:
That is some sweet coloring and weathering. I like it. As Kevin said warm, like the sunshine in Spain, or Nice,
i said that?
MuddyCreekRR
April 2020
Pattern Shop windows and doors…some weathering with chalk…no other details as of yet…still playing with the 2 rear wall windows…they need a little TLC…Final weathering again won’t happen till I get a feel for the rest of the build…On to the Repair Shop walls…
On thing I’m still working in my mind…is how far I will have the doors open…rear in particular…I will probably have a partial floor…maybe an interior wall…some small scene…we shall see…I also have to figure in lighting of the exterior areas…
brownbr
April 2020
It’s probably wise to wait as you say on final weathering.
MuddyCreekRR
April 2020
It’s hard for me not to…as I like working with smaller parts doing the weathering…and then do the final touches as stuff goes together…so right now I’ll get the initial color to where I want it to be…My biggest issue is to get better lighting to take the photos…I’m not happy with them at all…
Dave_S
April 2020
Hey Muddy!
The overhead garage doors designed for this kit by Brett are simply awesome.
They make me want to rebuild some of my older structures and add them.
All your doors are looking real sweet!
Later, Dave S. Tucson, AZ
MuddyCreekRR
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Thanks Dave…just the basic weathering so far…once they’re in place…I will fine tune to their location…I dig the garage door too…
MuddyCreekRR
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Time to let the paint dry…tried Joel’s fan brush technique…nice results…it is much easier to control the paint…since the repair shop is supposed to be newer…it will get to keep more paint…and have less damage…while waiting for the drying to occur…I’ll enjoy some BBQ…brisket should be done…
admin
April 2020
Awesome progress, so much fun watching!
MuddyCreekRR
April 2020
Working on the repair shop walls…not having the best luck with the second stencil…more bleed thru than I would like…going to give it another try later…with the storms it’s been a busy day…no time in the shop yet…
brownbr
April 2020
Do you have a stippling brush? Very handy for this sort of thing.
admin
April 2020
Let me know if you would like another stencil.
MuddyCreekRR
April 2020
That’s what I used on the Blacksmith stencil…and it came out good…not so much first try on the other stencil…I have an idea…going to try that right now…
MuddyCreekRR
April 2020
Mountaingoat
April 2020
Stencils came out great. All looks wonderful. Rick
MuddyCreekRR
April 2020
Thanks Brett…I got it figured out. I used to do custom paint work on cars back in the 70’s and 80’s and had used temporary adhesives to hold stuff in place to paint. So what I did…was spray just a little on the back of the stencil…and it adhered tight enough to allow me to do a few light passes with a matte white rattle can…the adhesive came off clean enough with just a little clean-up with steel wool…it also took a bit of the black paint…but I like the effect it left…I like the way it came out. Going to soften it up some more in the final weathering I think. The walls again are only lightly weathered with some chalk…final weathering later…The look I going for on this is a building newer than the Pattern Shop…so I want more paint…but a decent amount of wear…but maintained…going to do a taped together mock-up tomorrow to get a size idea and basic layout configuration…
brownbr
April 2020
Stencil work came out great. I see yours advertises hoist engines also…can’t wait for kit 313 with all of the hoist engines!
Joel
April 2020
Looks great! Nice crisp lettering. Just a suggestion but if you take a tiny brush with white paint you can erase the stencil lines like on the “O” the “D” the A’s and the "P"s.
MuddyCreekRR
April 2020
Thanks Bryan…I am now thinking of a whole complex in the area that I have set aside for O’Neills and the Foundry…The diorama I have in the works is going to include the Tractor repair and also the truck repair…and will be part of the whole logging scene that also includes the Sawmill and a small engine facility all on a peninsula module on the layout…I need to get busy…lol Thanks Joel…I just did a little work on that sign…and it does still need some cleanup…
brownbr
April 2020
Sounds like a great plan. Do you have it sketched out?
MuddyCreekRR
April 2020
Only in my mind…I need to eventually…
SteveF
April 2020
I just caught up on your build. Great work! Especially with the stencils. I like the tip and may use it in the future. I received my kit a few weeks but I’m trying to finish all the projects I have started first so following this build is a great way to enjoy the new kit while I get caught up. Thanks for all the pictures.
MuddyCreekRR
April 2020
Just a word on how I did the stencil. I had not quite the results that I wanted with the stippling brush…it worked great on the large Blacksmith stencil…but I think the more fragile smaller separations in the foundry stencil did not hold up that well for me…heavy hand I guess……(I"m a a firefighter…I tend to smash stuff)…..that being said. I placed the stencil backside up…and sprayed on a light coat of 3M medium strength adhesive. I let it tack up for 10 minutes…then placed it obviously adhesive side down onto the wall and lightly pressed it flat. I then braced it standing upright at 90 degrees. I then immediately used a rattle can of Krylon flat white primer and made a few light passes…allowing the paint to flash (semi dry) for about 20 seconds…until I had surface coverage of the open spaces of the stencil. Don’t over do it…less is more in this case. Once you’re happy with the coverage…lay it flat to dry. after about 15 minutes…carefully pull up and edge and check your coverage. If it’s good…remove the stencil…slowly…if you want more paint…just lay it back in place and hit it again…just don’t put on too much paint…it will run. Allow it to dry at least 1 few hours before you try to weather it. I used a couple of light passes with 000 steel wool to take down the edges of the letters. Than a s Joel has pointed out…use a fine brush to fill in the stencil lines…any adhesive that stays behind…you can remove with a #11blade. I had a nice effect with the adhesive removing just a little of the black background…
SteveF
April 2020
Thank you for taking the time to detail the stencil application. I’ve had trouble in the past with stencils moving and keeping sharp lines. I’m going to try your technique on my next project.
MuddyCreekRR
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Totally my pleasure…To practice…get some cheap stencils from Staples…most are still open by me…That way you can play with the technique and not ruin Brett’s handiwork…or your own…
KCSTrains
April 2020
Thanks for the explanation. I haven’t had to deal with stenciling yet. Phil
sdrees
April 2020
I will also have to keep this in mind when I need to use a stencil again.
Robert.G
April 2020
Thanks for the tutorial. This will be my first stencil.
MuddyCreekRR
April 2020
Brett’s method works fine…it just didn’t for me on the finer stencil. Try the method you feel comfortable with…I suggest that you try them both on a test stencil…it was probably my technique that didn’t work for me on the finer stencil.
MuddyCreekRR
April 2020
Busy in the shop on the tempering shed…once that is done…I’m going to do a quick mock-up of the 3 structures to get some measurements for the site on the layout…not gluing them together as that’s not called for in the instruction manual yet. Have done some minimal weathering…but will wait till I have all of the structures and details together to blend it all together… will need to wait till Installment 2 comes out. Till then it’s going to be back to my diorama…Keep an eye out for that thread…probably by Saturday afternoon…
Robert.G
April 2020
The waiting is always the hardest part… 
brownbr
April 2020
It will be tough waiting
MuddyCreekRR
April 2020
Trust me I have plenty to keep me busy…my diorama…O’Neill’s…and that ever present Sawmill it that big box that’s pretty far along…plus about 30 other kits sitting on the shelves… but the diorama will be worked on just in case the National Narrow Gauge happens…
MuddyCreekRR
April 2020
Got all of the construction done…going to do a little more weathering and touch up before I take some photos…as much as I want to assemble the walls…I know I shouldn’t…as there is a method to Brett’s madness…I am really pleased with the way things are turning out…maybe some photos later…
admin
April 2020
Madness, yeah for sure! Diligently working on part two this quarantine weekend…
Fantastic work, so much to enjoy. Love all the texture and detail. Some incredible modeling as always. Looking forward to more!
MuddyCreekRR
April 2020
Ok…here’s some photos of the tempering shed…and a mock up of the structures up to this point. I have yet to do some touch-ups of the foundry stenciling…and I seem to have a few loose shingles…again I am sorry for the quality of the photos /lighting. I just ordered a photographic lighting ensemble to help with photo lighting…that should help…
MuddyCreekRR
April 2020
Once I touch up the obvious…I will take some better shots…there is not enough details in the photos to do the work any justice…Then it’s into the plastic storage tub till the next installment arrives…Tomorrow…the Diorama…
brownbr
April 2020
Very cool seeing it all together.
MuddyCreekRR
April 2020
Yes it is…I needed some actual measurements to see how it will fit the layout space…I just wish the photos were better though…working on that…I can’t wait for the actual foundry building to arrive…it’s going to be…large…And to assure everyone…none of the walls are glued…just tape holding them together for the photo…
MuddyCreekRR
April 2020
Brett…Thank you for your approval…this is a great project and I anxiously…yet patiently await the coming installments…
Joel
April 2020
Great job so far. The shed turned out great.
Robert.G
April 2020
Nice to see this part together. Rather impressive even it is not finished and this is only a part of the whole project. Looks good so far.
MuddyCreekRR
April 2020
I was concerned over the size…I need to visualize the width of the peninsula this is going on the layout…that affords almost 360 degree viewing…no details get hidden…just need to try and stay in the 24" wide zone…can go bigger if needed…I need to actually draw out what’s in my head so I can get input from you guys…
brownbr
April 2020
Will the peninsula have rail? Will the rail curve into a return loop of just a spur line? Spur line I believe you will have the room. Return loop probably not.
MuddyCreekRR
April 2020
I’m looking at only a spur line…it will probably hold a few other structures also…I need to sit down and sketch out my layout…
MuddyCreekRR
May 2020
Nothing new…just a shot of my roof for the repair shop…….sprayed with matte black…then a dusting of Krylon Cement paint…it has the color I wanted…and the texture…weathering will come later…
MuddyCreekRR
May 2020
And yes…the ridge cap is not there…
Joel
May 2020
Looks great.
KKarns
May 2020
Great part of the build when things start to come together and you get a “feel” for how it’s going to look…allows a bit of forward planning which is a whole bunch of fun as well..
MuddyCreekRR
May 2020
I tend to sit and stare at the structure for a while…and let my mind wander to what it needs to look like…
MuddyCreekRR
May 2020
Sometimes mistakes can turn into good things…other times…not so much
JayNSmith
May 2020
I often over-think things, so please forgive me if this is an obvious question. On page 9 of the instructions, step 4 of “Adding Details to Stripwood” says “Repeat and add these details to all of the pieces as described.” Does “all of the pieces” refer to the 5 or 6 pieces in step 1, or all of the 8" pieces of stripwood?
I have not done the saw banding technique and have only done a few knotholes on other projects. Left to myself, I think I would put saw banding on 10-15% of the total boards and knot holes in 20-25%. Does that sound right?
Mountaingoat
May 2020
I would go a bit higher percentage of knot holes a bit because you will be cutting these into smaller boards, thus reducing the percentage of knots. Otherwise a good percentage.
Rick
Karl.A
May 2020
engine909 said:
Personally I like to attempt a result where you eye does not go to one thing every time. Now do I accomplish this, hell no. J
Perhaps you could share some of your results here, there are many very skillful eyes here that may be able to give you some ideas.
Robert.G
May 2020
I couldn’t agree more.
MuddyCreekRR
June 2020
Hoping to get back to the shop soon…been overly busy building a shed ( 1:1 scale) and by days end I’m too tired to concentrate on details…looks like the work will be done in a week of so…and the basement is at least 10 degrees cooler even without the AC…
Geezerbill
July 2020
Nice start Muddy. I’m going to enjoy your build.
Geezerbill
MuddyCreekRR
July 2020
Thanks…got a little done last night…camera was dead…some more hopefully today and some photos…
MuddyCreekRR
September 2021
Came home from the National Narrow Gauge Convention in Hickory to find a Sierra West delivery…Kit 314B…photos in the morning…into the shop tomorrow night…
MuddyCreekRR
September 2021
No photo’s as of yet as I am having issues getting them to post…but there is some progress on the bench…even though it’s not in the plans…I’m starting a base for this as it needs to find a space on the layout…and be a diorama for potential contest entry too…
MuddyCreekRR
June 2024
Went looking for this thread…figured I’d just add to it to refresh my memory on what I did to get the thing started back in 2021…coming up on 3 years just sitting, waiting…I did some work on the 2nd installment of this kit…never posted anything I can remember…that tub is all coming off the top shelf tonight as I dive back into this…as I have stated…I plan on getting this as far along as I can get it…
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Robert.G**
June 2024
It was an early Xmas today. The Foundry arrived. When opening the boxes I fell almost of my chair. What a superior quality. First, the packaging, the boxes are so beautiful, inside everything is so well protected ( post office people aren’t the most careful ones…) The color printed pages that go with the forklift, Brett, you outdid yourself… Again. ; .
I am sure I will unbox everything many more times just to enjoy the content. Congratulations for this installment !!
MuddyCreekRR
July 2024
All new posts will be on the Kit 314C thread…see you there…