O'Neills O Scale Build....here we go... : MuddycreekRR

This thread was started in May, 2017

MuddyCreekRR
May 2017 in O Scale Builds
Well…I promised to post pictures…and they will follow shortly. I am building my model for the layout, so since I have no idea yet as to which side will be the “money shot”, I will do as Brett intended and fully detail all sides. The shots are progress to this point, there is still a lot of detailing and weathering planned. I also decided that this will be a very active business, so I might go a bit farther on the “dirtying up” of the structure and details. So far, I went with Brett’s color scheme as I do like it a lot. And Dr Grunge has also influenced some of the weathering so far. You will notice that I went a little dark closer to the ground on the walls, and in some shots see a hint of green. My layout themes near the water, so dampness does affect the coloring a bit. Nothing is final yet, still playing with the chalks. And I plan to do a bit more distressing of the boards. I want the look of a well used, occassionaly maintained business, so expect a bit of dirt here and there. I am also going to have a few more boards out of skew…so bear with me…any and all advice is welcomed…so…Here we go…

Comments

KKarns
May 2017
Good preamble to an exciting build of a great kit…sounds like you have the right attitude going into it Muddy!

MuddyCreekRR
May 2017

admin
May 2017
Awesome! What a great start.

MuddyCreekRR
May 2017
Thanks Brett…still working on the weathering…also want to distress a few more boards…working on the addition right now…

nextceo
May 2017
Nice work on the boards…look fantastic,

kebmo
May 2017
great start to a great kit. i’m a step or two ahead of you but i’m sure you’ll blow by me soon enough. i have two tower walls sided. that’s where i’m at with it. you building looks oddly familiar… :slight_smile:

brownbr
May 2017
Off to a great start. Thanks for posting.

KCSTrains
June 2017
I’m jealous of O scale because of its detail. I can’t wait to see how this beauty of a kit will look as compared to the HO version. Phil

KKarns
June 2017
Wonderful work there Muddy. Love the board detailing! your “paint peel” appears very well done. I’d watch getting the green “algae” look too far up the walls. That’s one of those details that less is more and to me looks best confined to the bottom scale foot or so. Great work…

Karl.A
June 2017
Really digging that peeled paint, great job.
Karl.A

MuddyCreekRR
June 2017
Going to tone down the green a bit…it’s just dusted on now…so it’s not “fixed” yet…I live on the east coast right on the ocean…and the northern and western sides tend to get a bit green…moisture…I might leave a bit under where the stairs are going to go since it won’t see much sun…I’ve been working and on the road so I’ve slowed down a bit…back in the shop tonight to do some more detailing…getting the doors and windows further along…I’ll get some shots up tomorrow…if you guys spot something that seems a bit too stark…by all means…tell me…

Jerry
June 2017
Nice coloring on those boards.

Jerry

MuddyCreekRR
June 2017 174.57.158.130
Just realized that my “real” name is not on the profile…so…I’m Art…from the Jersey Shore…(don’t hold that against me…lol)…headed to the shop to build some more…

Jerry
June 2017
Art I just sent you an email hope you get it. Glad to know your name.

Jerry

Karl.A
June 2017
Very apt name Art, considering the 'Art’istic talent you seem to be showing us with your progress so far on this great build.,

Looking forward to your next update.

Karl.A

MuddyCreekRR
June 2017

Sorry…only one picture tonight…things have been burning a lot in Jersey (I’m a firefighter) and was only able to get a little bit done the last few days. Have all the main building doors and windows painted…and started the assembly of the rear wall doors…they are not fully done…as many have stated in the past…everything looks great until you take photos…and then all the little…and some big…issues appear…the doors on top are just painted…no additional weathering or details… the bottom 2 doors are the rear wall doors…I added a little damage to one…errant hand truck incident…and since Ken already did the plywood repair…I went with a piece of corrigated to replace the lower panel…sorry for the picture quality…I need to set up better lighting and play with the camera settings…the dark spots are some touch ups with some alcohol…since it’s going to rain…a lot here tomorrow…I plan to get them “nicer” and get them installed…and yes…I know the panel is a bit askew…may or may not fix it…

brownbr
June 2017
I like the corner bracing on the doors. Great idea.

admin
June 2017
love the doors Art! Gonna look awesome with your walls.

MuddyCreekRR
June 2017
By tonight…should have all the doors and windows in…with all this rain…I’ll be in the shop most of the day…I’ve had those details…the hinges and the corner braces from Vector Cut for a while…they’re HO…but they suit the doors well…It will show up in the photos later…but I also added a partial floor…just a few planks…so I can open one door just a wee bit farther…I like to do interiors…in particular on foreground models such as this will be…but I don’t want to distract from the rest of the outdoor details…and the welding shop will satisfy that desire…can’t wait to get Part 2 to see the rest of the details up close…but the welding building is a bit off so far…unless I jump ahead…lol…and Brett…your color choices are dead on…I too pondered going more gray tones…but this is a thriving business…like I said…worn…but slightly maintained…

Bill
June 2017
Good job on the doors, Art.
The little gash in the left hand door is a nice touch!

MuddyCreekRR
June 2017
I had a similar one on one of my garage doors a few years back…though it would be a bit different from a missing board…Thanks all for the encouragement…

kebmo
June 2017
the corrugated door repair looks great. i like the corner braces too. nice touch, i wish 'd thought of it… :slight_smile:

KKarns
June 2017
Nice door detail. I will assume the green color is a bit darker than it appears in the photos? I like that damage on the bottom of the bottom left door also.

MuddyCreekRR
June 2017
The lighting for the photo is poor…I need to set up some better lighting…maybe outside now that the multi day rain period is over…the color does match the trim…so a bit more weathering and detail work will be all it should need…

KKarns
June 2017
I figured it was a lighting issue. Great having you posting here Art.

Karl.A
June 2017 edited June 2017
Looks great, I love those little attentions to extra detail. Nice touches.

Karl.A

(100w Daylight bulbs, great for working under and your pics will thank you for it)

MuddyCreekRR
June 2017
basically been at work for 5 days straight…not much (not any) modeling happening…if I don’t pass out…plan to do some tonight…

MuddyCreekRR
June 2017
Between a bout of near-pneumonia…(coughing scatters the small parts too much)..and too many hours of work…got back in the shop today and got a bit more done…I was spurred on by the much anticipated PART TWO…it came yesterday…which also delayed me getting back into the shop…cuz I just had to read thru the entire manual…and ogle all the outstanding details…I’ll post some photos (not too many) later on the doors and some window installations…I hope to speed up a bit next week…

MuddyCreekRR
July 2017
I got very little done last night…fires seem to take front stage this week…but I was able to get some of the freight doors installed…the man door but not the transom…having some issues getting that glued up…but I will…I’m headed into the basement shop now…we shall see. I decided to put a hint of a floor inside the one set of freight doors…I plan to have maybe a “worker” either going in…more likely coming out…maybe with an empty hand truck…we shall see…and the cement loading dock got the initial coat of black paint…weathering that tonight too…I hope…

nextceo
July 2017
The Doors looks Fantastic!

Alan

MuddyCreekRR
July 2017 edited July 2017
Thanks Alan…just following directions…and some other inspirations…Still looking to do a brass door knob detail…and I was going to work on a thumb latch thing for the freight doors…and maybe a hasp and lock…not too sure on that yet…

admin
July 2017
Excellent work Art! Agreed, the doors look wonderful.

MuddyCreekRR
July 2017
Thanks Brett…your directions…your methods…I am amazed at how easy it is with your techniques as opposed to what I had be doing with weathering and such. Dr. Grunge has been “influencing” a few of my details.

MuddyCreekRR
July 2017
I so want to start doing some of the details that are in Part Two…as I just might…but I really want to get Part One further along…I may deviate a wee bit though…that boiler intrigues me…a lot…

Karl.A
July 2017
The doors, the walls… looking great..
Really like the faded green places playing against the darker weathering in other places,
great combination and very nicely executed.
Also like the wall weathering, (not talking about the peel which is well done, but) the dark grimey area on the lower section on the loading dock. Its not just the generic ‘damp’ water mark, its wear and tear, grime from items stacked there, dirt and damage from use and abuse, like it.

Karl.A

Karl.A
July 2017 edited July 2017
Oh, and nice weathering on the corrugated door patch… more surface rust along the bottom, where it would hold moisture and leading up the sides, not uniform and looks so much more realistic, nice touch. These things do get noticed and are worth the effort.

MuddyCreekRR
July 2017
Thanks Karl…these kind of observations coming from both you and Brett…means a lot…I’ve also payed attention to your work…which I hope to use in the details…I’m a big fan of your work there…Working on a few of those right now…working a 24 hour shift tomorrow…hope for some more pictures by Wednesday…

Karl.A
July 2017 edited July 2017
Thanks for the kind words. Much appreciated.

I’ll dig out a few pics of my O scale door knobs with plates and keyholes for you, easy to do,
also I did a thumb latch and hardware on a build once, I’ll look for those pics too if you want to see them, may give you some ideas…

Karl.A

brownbr
July 2017
Nice update. I like the hint of a floor peeking through the cracked door.

MuddyCreekRR
July 2017
Karl…Thanks…they will help…have a few ideas…more would be good…

KCSTrains
July 2017
Very, very nice. Phil

MuddyCreekRR
July 2017
Looks like I’m on the right track, Thanks for all the encouraging comments. Now I just need to make time to keep working on it.

KKarns
July 2017 edited July 2017
Really nice Art. Weathering is grungy but well used. Love the “slat” that not only is damaged but is pushed in rather than totally missing. Well done.

MuddyCreekRR
July 2017
“Hand truck mishap…”,I think the work bench will cover it up in the end though…may need to add one that will show elsewhere…to make it…as I was adding boards…I cut some of the cardstock wall out…blackened the area with chalk…glued in the board…then bent it in…don’t over do it…just enough to catch the eye…you may see a few more here and there…I also have a few boards that “stand proud” on some walls…you may see a few more as the build continues…

KKarns
July 2017
Art, I hear ya…one of those combined details that may in the end not be easily seen but the viewer will get a sense is there…if that makes any sense!

Karl.A
July 2017
To me, Perfect sense Ken, unseen at first, after the first level of ‘wow’ the viewer is then drawn in to the more subtle details, the less obvious things that created the ‘wow’ in the first place.
The unseen that were subconsciously seen, the ones that built the ‘wow’…

MuddyCreekRR
July 2017
Being a firefighter…I see a lot of buildings…all sizes, shapes, and conditions. I’ve become a student of building construction. I’ve bypassed buying some kits from various manufacturers in the past because they add details where they don’t belong…such as rafter tails on both the eaves and soffits…So…I like the look or realism…which is why I scratch build a lot…I really like the kits Brett puts out as I can just sit back…follow the directions, which are the best in the business…and add my little touch where I’d like to see it…I agree 100% Karl…the subtle stuff is what makes the viewer just want to keep looking…

Karl.A
July 2017
This is all I’ve found so far Art… My pics are all over the place right now. I might need to make a new one to show you and take some new pics. These are from some old scratchbuilds.

O scale door knob..

O scale thumb latch

Door knob is a straight sewing pin on a styrene plate (ho 1x6) key hole with exacto.
drill 2 holes in styrene 1x6, put exacto tip in one and rock it downwards to create keyhole. push sewing pin through other until it looks right and snip off the excess from the back.
(I found best to stick point into rag on bench and then snip, that stops it flying off and ending up in your eye, or in your foot while you walk around looking for it)
Paint.
Cut styrene strip to correct plate length last, Its much easier to work with a longer strip and then trim it at the end.

Thumb latch just some thin styrene cut up to shape and glued.

Karl.A

MuddyCreekRR
July 2017
Thanks Karl…neat ideas…I have played with a few of my own…your’s look much better…doing some time in the shop later today…I’ll see what transpires…maybe a few photos tonight…Thanks for looking…they will help…

MuddyCreekRR
October 2017
No…I did not fall off the face of the earth…work has been keeping me way too busy…and I’ve been on the road way too much teaching (fire stuff)…I have been following the other builds and it’s been pure torture to not have time to build…but I am sending this from the shop…waiting for some strip wood to dry…if nothing catches on fire…I hope to post some stuff tonight…we shall see… I had intentions to have this ready for the Expo in November…kinda doubtful right now…

MuddyCreekRR
November 2018
Yes…it’s been sitting on the workbench for over a year…with an occasional bit of work here and there…I went to the National Narrow Gauge Convention in Minneapolis with the intention of getting my butt back in gear and getting this build moving again…and after spending some time chatting with Brett, Karl and others…along with buying some neat stuff (in particular the Sierra West O scale castings Brett had for sale)…I had full intentions of going home and spending time in the shop…But…on the way home…I was notified that I was being deployed to the Carolina’s ahead of Hurricane Florence ( I am a Rescue Specialist on NJ’s FEMA USAR team)…after 15 days in NC….I got home still fired up and raring to go…but FEMA…and Mother Nature wasn’t done with me yet…I was back out the door to Florida for the next hurricane. I’ve been in the shop on and off over the last few weeks…and I can report some progress…just no photos as of yet…maybe after Turkey Day.….Just to update and remind you…my build is going to be a small module that will be added into my layout…and after my conversation with Brett…my plan is to include the O scale foundry once it comes out…so this will be basically a small module once I get that far…so check back in in a week or so…I will have a few shots up by then…

vietnamseabee
November 2018
Good to see you ‘checking in’ Art…the build looks great so far…A big thank you for what you do with FEMA…
Terry

EricMG
January 2019
Muddy, what happened?

MuddyCreekRR
January 2019
Wife got a knee replacement…I’ve had almost no spare time…I just yesterday got an hour to get the shop area cleaned up…I hope to have a few pics up soon…or so I hope…

EricMG
January 2019
We are kind of at the same place, right? Might be cool to pass notes as we go. Do you see any glaring errors in my start? Working on wall three.

MuddyCreekRR
January 2019
Like I said…build the kit the way you want it to fit into your layout…from what I’ve seen…you are not of the run down and decrepit…or the brand new bright paint groups. Brett’s instructions give you the tried and tested methods to age the wood to the level you want. It’s a choice everyone makes. I tend to like the look of the chipped and faded paint of a well built building…with the amount of wear and tear that comes with years of not being able to totally keep up with it. Your colors look good to me…and I think you are capturing the look of a building that needs some maintenance…but isn’t missing boards or has gaping holes in spots. And I know where you are on the old school construction quality…they built them to last back in the day. I have seen many kit manufacturers that have NO idea on how a real structure goes together…Brett does his homework…he will not put a kit out there that doesn’t fit the look or hit the mark. So again…you look like you know the look you want. Your modeling skills look great to me. So go for it. And keep posting pictures…everyone on this site will offer up little things that they may see “out of place”…and that is the great thing about this forum…instant help with many sets of eyes catching a minor issue before it become a bigger one…enjoy the help…