Ken, thanks, however I think it has survived in spite of my efforts.
Steven, thank you.
Hi Ray: Just saw your post and you’re doing a great job on the sawmill. The details look really good and the weathering looks great. Doing a great job on the machinery too. On the removable roof, some models look better than others. With all the detail in the sawmill, having a removable roof, I think, is the way to go. It’s a shame to hide all the details. I haven’t built my sawmill yet (working on the Railroad Camp now) but my plan is to make the roof removable if at all possible. Keep up the great modeling and thanks for sharing.
Great Job on the sawmill…this kit has been my nemesis for the past few years. It sits on it’s shelf…stares at me…mocks me…and tantalizes me. It needs to be finished…and your build has maybe pushed me to put it back on the workbench again…once I can find my workbench…
glandesjr, first, what is your name? You are right, it would be a shame to hide all those details. I think all are visible from one view or another, and quite frankly I’m not sure I’m competent enough to build a removable roof. Even the roof on the boiler house poses problems, the stack is a light press fit on the boiler, and it has guy wires attached to the roof. It seems to me the stack would have to come off with the roof, maybe can be done, but I need to get a lot smarter.
Art, thanks - once you find your workbench the sawmill will hide it again.
Ray,
What a fantastic build. The detailed scenes are beautiful. I love the mill engine but the desk and other scenes are great.
Joel, thanks for the kind words. I keep looking at all of the other threads on the forum - it’s humbling, this is one talented group of people.
Good Morning Ray:
Sorry I just saw your reply to my post, and my name is George. You are right regarding the stack. I probably wouldn’t remove that. The boiler shop also has a tall stack and I couldn’t remove that roof either. And you’re right in that you can see details from other angles. but the pic you posted of the “aerial” view looks really great, allowing people to get up close and see the details. But the model may not allow for the roof to be taken off. Take care and happy July 4th.
George, I’m working on the roof now, the main roof is built in 4 sections, in the manual Brett says these will warp - well see what shape they are in after construction then make a decision. Right now I’m pretty happy with things so if it ends up not being removable I’m not going to lose any sleep over it.
I have built a lot of structures with the roof being removable. The sawmill has far too many good details to not try to do it. If you follow Bretts instructions to a T…the roofs will be glued down. Several modelers have built the sawmill with a removable roof. Look back at Roberts build thread…I think his was removable. You need to make the roof a substructure of sorts to do it. Using battens over the rafters and gluing the roof members to it is one way. My build is back in progress…photos will flow soon…but I’m a long way till i get to the roof…I’m also building in a log pond…and a flume…so…
Art, thanks for the note and the reference to RobertG’s build. Very impressive and a little intimidating, Robert is very good. I have started to put the roof panels together, but have yet to make a decision on removable or not. Quite frankly I’ll be satisfied either way. Good to hear your working on this again, and I am looking forward to your photos.
Ray, I think back at the hours that i spent on the details hiding under the roof and when I show someone the build I have to give them a flashlight to look at what’s hidden. I wish that I had at least made one roof panel removable. And that my friend is my two cents.
I’m just finishing all of the roof panels now, that very thought haunts me. I’m not sure how to proceed, but I am going to make an effort to have the main roof removable. Thanks for your input.
I’m not sure what concerns you about the “removability” of the roofing but I’ll just mention that the SWSM Tie Mill kit uses a nifty approach with 2-part epoxy to “rigidize” the 2 sides of a peaked roof into one assembly.
Ray, create a separate truss system for the roof so it is removable. The only problem I see with that is where the truss sits on the top beam there would be a double beam. Even possibly using a thinner horizontal piece for the bottom of the truss so where the truss and top beam meet would not be as obtrusive. Just a thought. It would be a shame to hide the beautiful details on the inside.
Alan and Tom, thanks for the suggestions - your right, not difficult, just needs to be thought out.
Alan, I thought about your suggestion, and it made a lot of sense. I tried it and it worked out well. Then I took Tom’s suggestion about additional trusses, and that worked out well also.
And also, thank you Brett for putting that in your Tie Mill manual
To summarize, I did get the trusses made/glued in place, and all 6 of the roof panels made - Things always take longer than I think they will and this was no exception, ~ 300+ linear feet of stripwood.
Right now I have only finished with the two smaller roof panels.
The steps I took
- clamped the two small sections to the trusses
- carefully added a bead of 2 part epoxy (staying away from the permanent trusses) and only did small sections. Once done I let this cure overnight.
- With the roof sections still in place I epoxied the roof cap in place. Let that cure.
- removed the roof and epoxied in 3 trusses. Some of the equipment does protrude above the roof joists, so I made the trusses shorter so there would be no interference.
Test fit the completed roof, fits great. I guess we’ll just have to wait and see what happens over time.
So again, Alan and Tom, thanks for the suggestions.
Ray
Trusses in place
Lumber stacks - probably the most painful modeling ever
Small roof section clamped in place
Trusses just to stiffen the epoxied roof section
Roof section in place. I’m reasonably satisfied with this, just a few more details and roof sections - getting close.
Beautiful work here Ray! Coming along nicely.
Ray, outstanding work. I think I going to have to do one of the O scale kits.
Hi Ray:
The roof looks really good and is an example to those of us who still have their sawmill to build. I, for one, appreciate the work here and how you did it, along with the help of Tom and Al, to get an outstanding removable roof. Great work. Take care.
George
Great Job coming on nicely.