St Mary Lumber Co: brownbr

This thread was started in January, 2013

brownbr
January 2013 edited January 2013 in Layout Planning & Building
I’ll start with a track plan and add on later. This is the current configuration of my layout as an around the wall point to point. It mostly is a main camp on the left with a sub camp and logging operation in the center and a big open space on the right waiting on a sawmill.

The 2nd pic is a proposed addition to have the option of a continuous run with a lift out, a loco service facility as an extension of the main camp and a 2nd logging area. Though once this addition is added the first logging area may turn into a small mine.

The layout is on30 and is on a 12" grid.

Comments

Karl.A
January 2013
Great looking design Bryan, not overly tracked or at all cramped.
You’ve already made a fantastic start on the left side and I am certainly looking forward to watching you progress around the room/layout.

Karl.A

shay987
January 2013
Nice looking layout.

Jerry
January 2013
Nice design.

Jerry

brownbr
April 2013
I’ve spent the past couple of days playing connect the dots on the layout by filling in the area between Blue Sky and the RR Camp with scenery.

The first pic here is an older one where I was using the structures to mark out where sidings should go while laying track. Notice the conduit on the wall. This was leftover from my previous layout. I had installed a backdrop on hardboard on that layout so this was hidden. Experience says that removing this will take a chunk out of the wall that will need to be patched. I chose to paint it as part of the backdrop to see if I could hide it. It still looked bad so I came up with a plan B which was to hollow out a big tree. A tree this size sticks out so I needed a small clump of trees to blend it in…so on with the plan for connect the dots.

Next was to install lights into the existing structures. Much easier to do when building them by the way. Then the first layer of dirt was applied. Once this base was dried I started adding layers of ground covering. Weeds, vines, junk, deadfall, and pine needles. I’m thinking that an end of rail stop of some type and a pile of ties should finish it up.

LSNRwyAl
April 2013
Wow! Just wow!

Wes
April 2013
That last picture is a real winner Bryan.

brownbr
May 2013
Thanks guys.

I’ve been working on blending in 3 of the 4 SW dios that I have built. The 4th, the Woodcutter Shack is going over near the sawmill since that boiler will need a constant supply of wood and water.

The first photo shows the placement of each dio followed by further close ups. I wanted to look to be cluttered and used but overgrown by weeds. I started by putting in grass then adding junk, weeds, etc. Paths worn in the grass suggest movement between buildings. The tree trunks suggest that this area was logged over years ago and a meadow has creeped in.

I’m still working on adding weeds to the tracks and will probably have some more junk laying around. I’m trying to balance not enough vs too much. Once I’m satisfied with the look and the function of the track I will ballast the turnouts and secure everything with one last dose of matte medium.

If I ever get to do my expansion, the rigging and tool shed will need to move a bit since this is where the expansion will take off from. Not a problem though. The only thing holding these dios in place if the dirt and matte medium. I only need to find the edge if the dio and cut around it and lift it out.

Wes
May 2013
Bryan your results are really impressive.

The paths look very natural. Keep posting some more pics.

admin
May 2013
Looking great, wonderful scene. I really like the abandoned boiler and gearing next to the rigging shed, just rusting away… this is the one from the logging and tractor repair shed kit? The caboose storage shed is awesome too!

brownbr
May 2013
Thanks Wes. The paths were done by using a sanding stick..60 or 80 grit. Once the scene was dry I sanded away the grass and added very fine dirt.

Thanks Brett. The boiler is from the tractor repair shed. I think it looks at home here.

Wes
May 2013
MMM. That is an interesting way to do the paths.

Thanks for the tip.

brownbr
December 2014
I’ve been working on a log loading area on the layout with a pair of CHB donkeys, a spar tree and plenty of SW castings. I didn’t take any construction photos of the Willamette loader but got a couple of the Washington yarder.

The yarder sled started as a dowel I got at Lowes. I believe about 1 1/8". I used a dremel to put some taper in it then attached it to some 1x2 scraps to secure it while I carved out the notches using a #11 blade…well a bunch of them.

The long shot shows the area being worked on. It’s about 10ft, and the loader is not in it’s final position. I’ll get around to a cover for it soon. I used a smaller diameter tree and logging blocks in the distance. It’s nice having these excellent castings available to make the scene look right.

JohnM
December 2014
Bryan, this is spectacular. Did you do the really good background painting? It flows really well into the layout.

John

brownbr
December 2014
Thanks John. It’s been a fun project but I’ve found something very interesting over the years. When I started building this I wanted a model railroad to run trains. I’ve figured out that I get more enjoyment out of building stuff than running trains. I’ve been meaning to clean off the track and run some trains for months but another build seems to get in my way.

I did paint the backdrop myself. I found lots of resources online. I particularly liked this tutorial:

Search for “MODEL RAILROAD BACKDROP MURALS” on the U tube

The key is painting from back to front. Using subtle colors. And painting a haze on each layer as you move forward. I just used a white wash so the sky got several coats, the back mountains 1 less, the next set of ridges 1 less etc.

Here are a few progress photos. I tried to keep the foreground trees the same size, shape and colors as the model trees.

I used thick acrylics and applied the paint thick for texture.

BrianM
December 2014
Fantastic! Thanks for taking the time post all these layout progress shots, including your mini-clinic on backdrop painting. Your integration of the various scenes appears seamless and very realistic, particularly considering this is O scale necessitating a fairly high level of selective compression.

Karl.A
December 2014
Great info and pictures Brian, thanks for taking the time to explain how you did it. The results are superb.

Karl.A

JohnM
December 2014
Bryan, that is uncanny. I especially like your progress shots showing before/after on adding haze. The overall realism caught my eye because I thought it was the best meld of reality into background that I have see. Thank you for the description.

John

KCSTrains
December 2014
Bryan, I’m really interested in this thread. I’m moving next year and will have to start a new layout. Since I am doing HO I will have a bit more room. I want half to be a timber operation timber camp to sawmill, but I want the second half to be a town, railyard and other assorted things. Keep the pictures coming. You are doing a great job and inspiring me. Phil

brownbr
December 2014
Thanks John and Phil. I’ll be expecting to see your layouts on here at some point.

brownbr
January 2017 edited January 2017
It’s been a long time since I updated this. It’s been a long time since I’ve been able to model at all. I’m posting some of my trees here to go along with GeezerBill’s trees. I’m not truly satisfied with my modeling of individual trees, but the group effect does make a convincing scene. Maybe one of these days I will try to model a better tree for use in the foreground.

This set of pics shows some of the sizes of trunks I used. This grouping will be extended to fill in the spaces so almost this entire corner will be wooded. Getting in closer you get a feel for the trunk sizes, and getting in much closer you see what gives the grouping a forest feel…the forest floor. (it also hides my lack of root structure).

I’ve also used trees for camoflauge. The big trunk on the last pic hides a wire conduit going up the wall. The back of the trunk is flat against the wall with a channel carved in it. The big tree stumps in the foreground make this big tree seem right at home.

brownbr
January 2017
I use the backdrop to add depth to the trees. This front-on photo shows some depth to the trees, and more depth will be added with a few more trees in the foreground. But viewed from the side you can see that the modeled trees are actually almost in a straight line.

brownbr
January 2017
And lastly, there are relatively few deciduous trees on my layout. But I just couldn’t resist using the remains of the bonsai that I killed to make a tree stretching out over the water. A close up shows roots and bark that I will I could reproduce myself.

SteveCuster
January 2017
The whole scene here looks great Bryan. Is that gnome fishing?

nextceo
January 2017 edited January 2017
You’ve been holding out on us all these years…unless I’ve been sleeping and totally missing all your posts. Just Amazing! I’ll calling for a Tree Clinic from you…

KKarns
January 2017
I agree with Alan, those trees are wonderful. The trunk detail is great, a tree clinic would be in order and you will bend under the peer pressure so don’t fight it.

MitchN
January 2017
The blend between the trees and the background painting is wonderful. Great combination of modeling and painting skills.

CarlLaskey
January 2017
Great work Bryan the depth is spot on and the detail’s on the trees is very real.
Carl

brownbr
January 2017
Thanks guys. I’ll try to put together a step-by-step on how I made the pines.

Yes Steve, the gnome is fishing. I’d hate to see what he catches. I put some goldfish in that body of water along with railroad ties, tires, rusted barrels, etc.

KCSTrains
January 2017
Bryan, excellent work. As I told you, I need a timber cutting scene and you are giving me something to reference. Like you, I plan to have large pine trees. Keep up the good work. Phil

Geezerbill
January 2017
Bryan, your complete layout looks just great. The trees are very realistic. It has been a long time since I looked at this and it is a joy to see it again. You really do have Big Boy trees. Very nice!

Geezerbill

CarlRowe
January 2017
This is simply wonderful. Excellent structures fitting naturally into a fantastically wooded setting. Great trees. Let’s have a tutorial on the pines!M

Geezerbill
January 2017
Bryan, I forgot to ask, what are the ferns made from? They are just right amongst your trees and bushes..

brownbr
January 2017
Bill, the ferns were pre-made. I think these are by JTT. They are plastic and a bit shiny. I toned them down with powders. I also picked up some paper ones which are not shiny but are not as detailed.

Geezerbill
January 2017
Thanks Bryan, I’ll sure look into that. Really like them and very typical in old growth Doug Fir groves.

Geezerbill

EricMG
August 2018 edited August 2018
Bryan, your layout is simply jaw-droppingly cool! The sense of the enormity of nature and the fragile attempts of man to survive are so apparent. It is so difficult to get that nature first, humans second feel in a model pike, which was the truth then. And I never believed trees could be that huge until I saw them. For a New England lad it was very eerie. I think that feeling that sense of smallness before nature is something too many of us have forgotten. But recently, eyes have been jolted awake again. See? Your railroad creates philosophical thought. A beauty!

And being a Celt, I of course respond the the leprechaun among the toad stools.

I sent the link to my wife. Hope it opens. As an aside, I think there are ways to photograph what you have that might bring it out even more.

Robert.G
August 2018
Thanks so much for sharing this super layout with us. So much to discover. Fantastic job all the way !!!